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Harold White left NASA in December to join a new nonprofit focused on building the technologies to bring humans to the outer solar system and beyond.

https://www.wired.com/story/nasas-emdri ... r-project/
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The EmDrive is fatally flawed and will never work regardless of how well it is lubricated with snake oil IMO. :lol:
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Interesting but I have to admit I'm a bit skeptical as well. Science-fictiony.
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helicon wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 5:10 pm Interesting but I have to admit I'm a bit skeptical as well. Science-fictiony.
As in being completely free of science? ;)
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This certainly was a fun read! Thanks for posting this, Michael. I struggle to comprehend a lot of things like this, but when I read the article, I didn't feel alone, because the inventors cannot agree about if they are actually getting thrust (?), and if so, they cannot explain why they are getting thrust. I felt in good company there. :lol:

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"Harold White left NASA in December ..."
So he will take his EM drive elsewhere. In that context, I am grateful that he did not come to work for my employer. [And, just in case he reads this... I mean that in the nicest way, and wish him luck in his new digs.]
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smp wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 6:01 pm This certainly was a fun read! Thanks for posting this, Michael. I struggle to comprehend a lot of things like this, but when I read the article, I didn't feel alone, because the inventors cannot agree about if they are actually getting thrust (?), and if so, they cannot explain why they are getting thrust. I felt in good company there. :lol:

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The scientific consensus is that there is no thrust, just measurement error. The better they make the experiment the smaller the thrust gets. It vanishes like the smile of a Cheshire cat.

The "explanations" for why they might expect thrust are fundamentally flawed. Does a bull crap in the field? :) No one with an understanding of zero point energy etc. believes in this proposal. It fails independent tests and violates conservation laws.
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Perhaps this is the best reply to the promoters of this EM drive?
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AntennaGuy wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 6:21 pm Perhaps this is the best reply to the promoters of this EM drive?
Once at NASA HQ I asked the question why they were spending any money at all on this stuff. The answer I got was: "It's not much, we look at it as PR to keep the Trekkies happy."

At that point I knew that I was doomed. :lol:
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