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Additional Schrödinger's cat silliness

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Post by notFritzArgelander » Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:09 pm

https://phys.org/news/2020-02-deconstru ... r-cat.html

Another case of mystification by words (metaphysics) confusing the issue.

The cat is just as valid an observer as the human outside the box. No opening is required to determine the state of the cat. There is no paradox, just folks confusing the,selves with word salads. ;)
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Post by kt4hx » Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:49 pm

And here we have the quandary of Schrödinger's cat sealed in a box, as presented by Aunt Bethany. Is the cat alive or dead? The box does not need to be opened to figure that out! :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90eEVC50smY
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Post by helicon » Fri Feb 14, 2020 11:17 pm

What does the cat eat? :-)
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Post by notFritzArgelander » Fri Feb 14, 2020 11:22 pm

helicon wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 11:17 pm
What does the cat eat? :-)
If sufficiently hungry, the Geiger counter? :)
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Post by Lady Fraktor » Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:58 am

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Post by notFritzArgelander » Sat Feb 15, 2020 5:09 am

That's a giggle! :)
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Post by Lady Fraktor » Sat Feb 15, 2020 9:11 pm

For just a touch more silliness


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Post by notFritzArgelander » Sat Feb 15, 2020 9:14 pm

These are all just too rich! Thanks.
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Post by Voyageur » Sat Feb 15, 2020 10:06 pm

I have had several cats. I have put a cat outside and closed the door. Later, I have called and called at the door for the cat to come in, with no response. Upon closing the door and turning back into the room, I have witnessed said cat strolling out from behind the couch.

This has happened far too many times for me to discount the reality of this paradox.
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Post by notFritzArgelander » Sat Feb 15, 2020 10:15 pm

Voyageur wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 10:06 pm
I have had several cats. I have put a cat outside and closed the door. Later, I have called and called at the door for the cat to come in, with no response. Upon closing the door and turning back into the room, I have witnessed said cat strolling out from behind the couch.

This has happened far too many times for me to discount the reality of this paradox.
This is actually a different phenomenon: quantum mechanical tunneling.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_tunnelling

Not only are cats especially good at this, we owe our very existence to it. Can't make carbon in stars without it. ;)
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Post by Voyageur » Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:18 pm

notFritzArgelander wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 10:15 pm
Voyageur wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 10:06 pm
I have had several cats. I have put a cat outside and closed the door. Later, I have called and called at the door for the cat to come in, with no response. Upon closing the door and turning back into the room, I have witnessed said cat strolling out from behind the couch.

This has happened far too many times for me to discount the reality of this paradox.
This is actually a different phenomenon: quantum mechanical tunneling.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_tunnelling

Not only are cats especially good at this, we owe our very existence to it. Can't make carbon in stars without it. ;)
Ahhh, thanks for the clarification, nFA! :text-thankyouyellow:
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