Getting back into astronomy after 40 years

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I have been re-bitten by the astronomy bug, 40 years since I was serious about it. I built my own 8" Newtonian back in the 70's, learned a lot about optics. I had my own darkroom so I could process film that same night if I wanted to.

I'm planning to use all of my learned experiences and electronics background to fabricate an Ardunio based equatorial mount and use a machine vision camera to capture images. I have a lot to learn about astrophotography and how to incorporate all my ideas into a workable setup.

I'm also planning on getting started right away with a prebuilt system, nice refractor telescope and goto mount so I can start the learning curve of image processing and PP.

Looking forward to participating in discussions here and sharing ideas.

Cheers from Vernon, BC
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Thanks for the nice introduction and welcome to TSS! I have also returned to observing after a long break thanks to my kids.
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Hello Kilo,

Welcome to TSS. Glad you joined us. We all look forward to your participation however it may manifest itself.

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Welcome to TSS!
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Hello Kilohertz

Good to see you have been re-bitten by the astronomy bug.

My Dad built a photographic darkroom in the loft that I used for a while in the 70s. It's all changed a bit since then!

Welcome to the forum!

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Welcome to the forum. Good luck with building from scratch, I know nothing about that.
Since you are once again new to the hobby, there's lots to learn about modern gear. I'm not sure what your budget is for the prebuilt rig you are thinking about getting into or what kind of payload you are interested in but you might want to check out ZWO's AM5 and ASIair setups.
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Welcome kHz. Its great you reacquired the astronomy itch, and nice to have you joining our ranks. I hope you find this a good place to belong. We have a lot of dedicated astronomers here who enjoy sharing and learning from one another.
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Welcome, and welcome back to the hobby!

Best of luck indeed ..
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Hi KHz, and welcome here to the Forum!

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Wow!! Awesome warm welcome, thank you all for your comments and words of encouragement.

I spent several more hours reading about "modern" astrophotography. This probably isn't the place to ask questions so I will just reply to the Q's asked.

My budget to get a prebuilt system, honestly, as little as possible but maybe up to $1500. I have found locally a nice fellow with an ED80 and a few accessories for ~$650 USD. He also has an HEQ5-PRO for another $800USD. Even though I am in Canada it seems the world revolves around the USD which is why I quoted that way. I know I have the ability to fabricate a motor system to work with an old equatorial mount I have, or build a new one, it may take all winter and I can't wait to get into it right away which is why I'm thinking prebuilt to get going. I also found a Redcat 71 for $1500 but that is really outside my budget right now. I just started looking locally last night, there are lots out there, just need to find the right balance of cost, performance and resale when I upgrade.

I have an Allied Vision Oscar 510T machine vision camera which I used for my telecine project, I think it would work well but I'm not sure the critical specs for astro work. Just for fun, here is a link to what I built in 2019 to digitize all my parents 8mm film home movies, it was a lot of fun, there are 2 parts to it.

More later.

Cheers

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One final thought for the evening...reading your various signatures, I see there is a TON of items I have never heard of and probably processes that go way beyond pushing an 800 ASA film for that perfect image (yes, I'm old).

Are there any 30,000 ft tutorials you could recommend that would cover all aspects of "modern" astronomy, I need to get a handle on the process from required basic equipment thru to getting a nice clear colorful image. I'm thinking DSO will be my primary interest to start, although seeing Neil Armstrong's foot prints on the moon would be cool too. :dance:

Thanks
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This TSS Article would be a good place to start:

https://www.theskysearchers.com/app.php ... -journey-2

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Welcome to TSS, thanks for joining us! :)

I also had a darkroom back in those days, in fact I never progressed to the digital age.
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Graeme1858 wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 3:50 am This TSS Article would be a good place to start:

https://www.theskysearchers.com/app.php ... -journey-2

Graeme
That was great, thanks.

As #5 says, "input, need more input". I'll keep searching for more articles.

Cheers
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And just an FYI, I'm out in the country on 20 acres, from what I can determine, Bortle 2, a good location. I'm bringing home a couple of 5'x9' concrete slabs from work to place in the field for the tripod mount, about 3,000lbs, should be a good platform. :lol:

cheers
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One thing that has changed a lot is plate solving. There are multiple freeware packages as well as bought packages that take your camera image, and identify the part of the sky the camera is pointing at in real time. You can do this with an astrocam, or DSLR, you don't need a dedicated machine vision setup. So if your machine vision cam is not optimised for low light, you can use plate solve.

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