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Gee if I had known there was so much to see I would have started decades ago ! :Astronomer1:

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Thanks for sharing Frank.

I have spent years trying to educate folks about ocean pollution, guess it's time to add space to that list :(
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All that trash belongs to someone, those responsible have names and can be found and fined for thier lack of responsibility

The funds could be used to clean it all up, at some point we have to conclude that retrieval is part of launch.

But really military, sports, construction and consumpion debrees litter this globe going back thousands of years, how would we treat space with a higher regard when our past shows our actions to be linear.

All that light pollution needs addressing while we are at it too!


Thanks Frank, makes one think a bit...
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StarHugger wrote: Thu Sep 07, 2023 4:39 pm All that trash belongs to someone, those responsible have names and can be found and fined for thier lack of responsibility

The funds could be used to clean it all up, at some point we have to conclude that retrieval is part of launch.

But really military, sports, construction and consumpion debrees litter this globe going back thousands of years, how would we treat space with a higher regard when our past shows our actions to be linear.

All that light pollution needs addressing while we are at it too!


Thanks Frank, makes one think a bit...
There are actually very few ways of removing any significant amount of the current debris cloud and only a couple have been tested on orbit.
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Thank you all for commenting!

I read somewhere that if they don’t address the debris just orbiting the planet alone that there will be a tipping point of no return where we will not be able to launch anything into space for fear of hitting space junk on the way up.
Furthermore think about when they send the ISS into the “dead zone” of the Pacific Ocean after 2030!
Also,enclosing here I posted another article a while back about a satellite that is in space and what the satellite does is it goes and finds other satellites that are getting ready to go off their orbit and attaches itself to it corrects it’s orbit over the course of a few years.
It stays with it another year or two to make sure then it detaches, and then goes and looks for the next satellite!
Gee if I had known there was so much to see I would have started decades ago ! :Astronomer1:

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Frankskywatcher wrote: Sat Sep 16, 2023 4:25 pm Thank you all for commenting!

I read somewhere that if they don’t address the debris just orbiting the planet alone that there will be a tipping point of no return where we will not be able to launch anything into space for fear of hitting space junk on the way up.
Furthermore think about when they send the ISS into the “dead zone” of the Pacific Ocean after 2030!
Also,enclosing here I posted another article a while back about a satellite that is in space and what the satellite does is it goes and finds other satellites that are getting ready to go off their orbit and attaches itself to it corrects it’s orbit over the course of a few years.
It stays with it another year or two to make sure then it detaches, and then goes and looks for the next satellite!
Thats interesting, I was thinking a law that all new launches for orbital placement have to include deorbiting thrusters and a docsys compliant capture interface for robotic removal from orbit.

As well as a full deorbiting plan filed with a space force and insurance for satelliting and desating the friendly skies...

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StarHugger wrote: Sat Sep 16, 2023 4:47 pm
Frankskywatcher wrote: Sat Sep 16, 2023 4:25 pm Thank you all for commenting!

I read somewhere that if they don’t address the debris just orbiting the planet alone that there will be a tipping point of no return where we will not be able to launch anything into space for fear of hitting space junk on the way up.
Furthermore think about when they send the ISS into the “dead zone” of the Pacific Ocean after 2030!
Also,enclosing here I posted another article a while back about a satellite that is in space and what the satellite does is it goes and finds other satellites that are getting ready to go off their orbit and attaches itself to it corrects it’s orbit over the course of a few years.
It stays with it another year or two to make sure then it detaches, and then goes and looks for the next satellite!
Thats interesting, I was thinking a law that all new launches for orbital placement have to include deorbiting thrusters and a docsys compliant capture interface for robotic removal from orbit.

As well as a full deorbiting plan filed with a space force and insurance for satelliting and desating the friendly skies...

AI Desat Inc. Maybe even...
It wouldn't be a law but a treaty should be workable. Commercial launches at the least are usually insured and a provision of the insurance policy could be a deorbiting plan. Military is a falling percentage of total launches so that might be enough to jump start the clean up.
Any metaphor will tear if stretched over too much reality.
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Meade 114-EQ-DH f7.9 Newtonian w/ manual GEM
Bushnell 90mm f13.9 Catadioptric
Gskyer 80mm f5 Alt/Az refractor
Jason 10x50 Binoculars
Celestron 7x50 Binoculars
Svbony 2.1x42 Binoculars
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