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Is this worth the $$$

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:46 pm
by Frankskywatcher
Hey everyone, I see this Meade refractor telescope this guy is selling on Facebook marketplace.
The guy is asking $100 said he literally used it once it’s a Meade infinity 60mm-70mm refractor ( I don’t have a refractor yet they retail for $160.00 on Amazon.
The question is it a toy or if I could get it for 75 he’s asking 100 would it be worth buying either way quality wise or price wise would it be worth it?
Thanks in advance !

Re: Is this worth the $$$

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:21 pm
by Bigzmey
Diagonal and EPs need to be replaced, otherwise it could be a fun starter refractor. Red dot should be usable and barlow might be to. The aperture will be very limiting compared to your 10". But it could serve as grab-and-go.

I think $75 would be a fair price for 70mm model.

Re: Is this worth the $$$

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:23 pm
by Thefatkitty
Honestly Frank, if that was me I'd pass. If you could get it for about $50 I'd say give it a whirl, but you'd probably not be impressed. Just speaking from experience and my two cents worth :D

I'd say save the C-note (expression for $100 here in Canada) and put it towards something better.

All the best,

Re: Is this worth the $$$

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:40 pm
by Bigzmey
Thefatkitty wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:23 pm Honestly Frank, if that was me I'd pass. If you could get it for about $50 I'd say give it a whirl, but you'd probably not be impressed. Just speaking from experience and my two cents worth :D

I'd say save the C-note (expression for $100 here in Canada) and put it towards something better.

All the best,
I hear you Mark. Is it mostly because of the small aperture or quality of components?

Re: Is this worth the $$$

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2023 10:19 pm
by helicon
I'm quite happy with a 4 inch frac as a grab-n-go. It weighs 15 pounds at f/9.8 and I can carry it in one hand. My other grab-n-go newt is slightly less portable. So maybe save up a bit for it. I can see a lot with the 4" and its way easier to haul out than my 10" Dob.

Re: Is this worth the $$$

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2023 10:37 pm
by Nakedgun
Frankskywatcher wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:46 pm Hey everyone, I see this Meade refractor telescope this guy is selling on Facebook marketplace.
The guy is asking $100 said he literally used it once it’s a Meade infinity 60mm-70mm refractor ( I don’t have a refractor yet they retail for $160.00 on Amazon.
The question is it a toy or if I could get it for 75 he’s asking 100 would it be worth buying either way quality wise or price wise would it be worth it?
Thanks in advance !
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Junk.



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Re: Is this worth the $$$

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 1:21 am
by Thefatkitty
Bigzmey wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:40 pm
I hear you Mark. Is it mostly because of the small aperture or quality of components?
Honestly Andrey, I've looked through one with the 2 stock eyepieces, (a friend's son), it might be a good scope but it really needs at least one decent eyepiece, a non-plastic diagonal (a mirror with two pieces of-see through plastic on both ends of that) and a real tripod. Quality of components for sure!

My friend and I ended up getting his son a 6" Skywatcher dob. 5X the price, but a scope you can use for a lifetime, and much better optics/stability. For the price of this 70mm scope, a decent diagonal and one good eyepiece you wouldn't be much far off from the price of the 6" dob. And you'd still want a mount....

Re: Is this worth the $$$

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 2:16 am
by Frankskywatcher
Thefatkitty wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:23 pm Honestly Frank, if that was me I'd pass. If you could get it for about $50 I'd say give it a whirl, but you'd probably not be impressed. Just speaking from experience and my two cents worth :D

I'd say save the C-note (expression for $100 here in Canada) and put it towards something better.

All the best,
I love it C note I’m familiar with that term.
I think you are correct on the pass but I’d thought I’d give it a shot thanks for the input my friend!

Re: Is this worth the $$$

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 2:17 am
by Frankskywatcher
Nakedgun wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2023 10:37 pm
Frankskywatcher wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:46 pm Hey everyone, I see this Meade refractor telescope this guy is selling on Facebook marketplace.
The guy is asking $100 said he literally used it once it’s a Meade infinity 60mm-70mm refractor ( I don’t have a refractor yet they retail for $160.00 on Amazon.
The question is it a toy or if I could get it for 75 he’s asking 100 would it be worth buying either way quality wise or price wise would it be worth it?
Thanks in advance !
~
Junk.

That’s what I was thinking but I thought I’d give it a shot I appreciate you and your candid response thank you my friend !

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Re: Is this worth the $$$

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 2:20 am
by Frankskywatcher
Thank you every one!
I chuckle to myself now thinking “ ask a dumb question then get ready for the answers dummy” and thank you for schooling me yet again !

Re: Is this worth the $$$

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 2:53 am
by Bigzmey
Thefatkitty wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 1:21 am
Bigzmey wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:40 pm
I hear you Mark. Is it mostly because of the small aperture or quality of components?
Honestly Andrey, I've looked through one with the 2 stock eyepieces, (a friend's son), it might be a good scope but it really needs at least one decent eyepiece, a non-plastic diagonal (a mirror with two pieces of-see through plastic on both ends of that) and a real tripod. Quality of components for sure!

My friend and I ended up getting his son a 6" Skywatcher dob. 5X the price, but a scope you can use for a lifetime, and much better optics/stability. For the price of this 70mm scope, a decent diagonal and one good eyepiece you wouldn't be much far off from the price of the 6" dob. And you'd still want a mount....
Well, yes for $500 one can certainly get better scope then for $100, and for $2000 even better yet. :D But to give the scope in question fair evaluation, most scopes under $500 come bundled with unusable EPs and many with plastic diagonals. I would say it is given that for most scopes you need to invest in better EPs and diagonal. Also, the mount it comes with is basic but not bad as far as entry level refractors go. This is older model and they came with more stable mounts then latest entry level scopes.

Also, Frank already has a nice 10" DOB and is looking for refractor experience. My first frac was not that much different from this 70mm and it got me hooked on refractors, so for my 2d I was comfortable to pay more, and even more for the 3d, and so on. :D There is no way I would be dropping $2,000 or even $500 on a scope from the beginning.

Re: Is this worth the $$$

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 3:01 am
by Thefatkitty
Not a dumb question at all Frank, I know I'm glad you asked. Michael (Helicon) is right, and there are a lot of 4" models to choose from. Also keep an eye to the used market as well. I bought my slightly used 80mm f/11.4 frac and CG4 mount for $180 CDN, and it's been my workhorse for Solar/Lunar AP for going on 7 years now.

Patience, good things come to those who wait (and shop around!) :D

Re: Is this worth the $$$

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 3:12 am
by Thefatkitty
Bigzmey wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 2:53 am
Well, yes for $500 one can certainly get better scope then for $100, and for $2000 even better yet. :D But to give the scope in question fair evaluation, most scopes under $500 come bundled with unusable EPs and many with plastic diagonals. I would say it is given that for most scopes you need to invest in better EPs and diagonal. Also, the mount it comes with is basic but not bad as far as entry level refractors go. This is older model and they came with more stable mounts then latest entry level scopes.

Also, Frank already has a nice 10" DOB and is looking for refractor experience. My first frac was not that much different from this 70mm and it got me hooked on refractors, so for my 2d I was comfortable to pay more, and even more for the 3d, and so on. :D There is no way I would be dropping $2,000 or even $500 on a scope from the beginning.
Good points Andrey, and I didn't notice Frank already had a dob :doh: My first 60mm got me hooked on fracs as well. I also didn't realise this 70mm was the older (and better) model. I stand corrected; was just trying to help :D

Re: Is this worth the $$$

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 5:22 pm
by Lady Fraktor
These short focal length, smaller than 80 mm beginner refractors are good to let the children play with at night or take it along when hiking/ camping or the occasional terrestrial look. You would not be concerned if it was banged around.

You can find good optics in 60 mm and larger refractors but they are usually at least f/10- f/15

As the others have already mentioned the accessories really let these telescopes down.

This is a older posting I made about the smaller refractors and what you can see.
https://theskysearchers.com/viewtopic.php?t=10111

If you are looking to purchase a refractor that will complement your newtonian I would not go less than a 80 mm in the f/7 range