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messier 111 wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2023 3:05 am
Bigzmey wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2023 2:40 am
messier 111 wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2023 2:29 am

yes you are right, I have one or two mounts in mind.

Celestron Advanced VX

Sky-Watcher HEQ5 Mount
it is also said that it can be put on a cg-4 as it weighs only 16 pounds.

but i know you are right about that.
You can give it a try with cg-4, but I fear it will be a shaky experience. Here is my setup with CG-5 equivalent (30lb) and the mount handled the scope just barely. Because of the weight distribution and OTA length of ~100 cm the frac exhorts more force than heavier but more compact scope.

ES 127mm CF APO on Bresser Exos2.jpg
what do you think of my two mount suggestions?
Either should work fine and both have good following.
Scopes: Stellarvue: SV102ED; Celestron: 9.25" EdgeHD, 8" SCT, 150ST, Onyx 80ED; iOptron: Hankmeister 6" Mak; SW: 7" Mak; Meade: 80ST.
Mounts: SW: SkyTee2, AzGTi; iOptron: AZMP; ES: Twilight I; Bresser: EXOS2; UA: MicroStar.
Binos: APM: 100-90 APO; Canon: IS 15x50; Orion: Binoviewer, LG II 15x70, WV 10x50, Nikon: AE 16x50, 10x50, 8x40.
EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.

Observing: DSOs: 3106 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2180, S110: 77). Doubles: 2382, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 255
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Lady Fraktor wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2023 3:50 am I use a ASGT, precursor to the AVX and a manual CG-5 with a 150 mm f/8 that weights 13 kg (29 lb) without issue and movement/ tracking is smooth.
Both mounts that you have listed should work well but some people say the Skywatcher is slightly better.
Gabby do you use pier extensions with your mounts?
Scopes: Stellarvue: SV102ED; Celestron: 9.25" EdgeHD, 8" SCT, 150ST, Onyx 80ED; iOptron: Hankmeister 6" Mak; SW: 7" Mak; Meade: 80ST.
Mounts: SW: SkyTee2, AzGTi; iOptron: AZMP; ES: Twilight I; Bresser: EXOS2; UA: MicroStar.
Binos: APM: 100-90 APO; Canon: IS 15x50; Orion: Binoviewer, LG II 15x70, WV 10x50, Nikon: AE 16x50, 10x50, 8x40.
EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.

Observing: DSOs: 3106 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2180, S110: 77). Doubles: 2382, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 255
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Bigzmey wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2023 5:38 am Gabby do you use pier extensions with your mounts?
With the ASGT & CG-5 I do not use pillars, I install internal counterweights so that the telescope tube is far enough up in the rings that I do not have to do gymnastics or fear the telescope will strike the tripod.
See Far Sticks: Antares Elita 103/1575, AOM FLT 105/1000, Bresser BV 127/1200, Nočný stopár 152/1200, Vyrobené doma 70/700, Stellarvue NHNG DX 80/552, TAL RS100/1000, Vixen SD115s/885
EQ: TAL MT-1, Vixen SXP, AXJ, AXD
Az/Alt: AYO Digi II/ Argo Navis, Stellarvue M2C/ Argo Navis
Tripods: Berlebach Planet (2), Uni 28 Astro, Report 372, TAL factory maple, Vixen ASG-CB90, Vixen AXD-TR102
Diagonals: Astro-Physics, Baader Amici, Baader Herschel, iStar Blue, Stellarvue DX, Takahashi prism, TAL, Vixen flip mirror
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I would like to thank,

Bigzmey , Lady Fraktor and John Baars .

Thank you so much for your help .
I should have some news on Monday from Germany for the cost of transport and the telescope.
I believe that the ts 125mm will take the direction of canada shortly.
thanks again much appreciated.
I LOVE REFRACTORS , :Astronomer1: :sprefac:

REFRACTOR , TS-Optics Doublet SD-APO 125 mm f/7.8 . Lunt 80mm MT Ha Doublet Refractor .

EYEPIECES, Delos , Delite and 26mm Nagler t5 , 2 zoom Svbony 7-21 , Orion Premium Linear BinoViewer .

FILTER , Nebustar 2 tele vue . Apm solar wedge . contrast booster 2 inches .

Mounts , berno mack 3 with telepod , cg-4 motorized , eq6 pro belt drive .

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Lady Fraktor wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 5:51 am For strictly visual a high quality doublet will do a great job as well.
I would suggest a Vixen 115 mm or the Teleskop-Service Photoline or Teleskop-Service CFF refractors.
If interested in the Astro-Tech I would look at the 125EDL as well.
finally I chose the TS 125 mm f7/8 since astro-tech does not really want to sell it in canada.
with a delivery charge of 800 $ us, we can say that they do not want to sell it.
it costs me $200 Canadian from Germany including customs fees.
so the choice was easy.
thank you for your help.
I LOVE REFRACTORS , :Astronomer1: :sprefac:

REFRACTOR , TS-Optics Doublet SD-APO 125 mm f/7.8 . Lunt 80mm MT Ha Doublet Refractor .

EYEPIECES, Delos , Delite and 26mm Nagler t5 , 2 zoom Svbony 7-21 , Orion Premium Linear BinoViewer .

FILTER , Nebustar 2 tele vue . Apm solar wedge . contrast booster 2 inches .

Mounts , berno mack 3 with telepod , cg-4 motorized , eq6 pro belt drive .

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Jean-Yves :flags-canada:
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messier 111 wrote: Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:47 pm
Lady Fraktor wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 5:51 am For strictly visual a high quality doublet will do a great job as well.
I would suggest a Vixen 115 mm or the Teleskop-Service Photoline or Teleskop-Service CFF refractors.
If interested in the Astro-Tech I would look at the 125EDL as well.
finally I chose the TS 125 mm f7/8 since astro-tech does not really want to sell it in canada.
with a delivery charge of 800 $ us, we can say that they do not want to sell it.
it costs me $200 Canadian from Germany including customs fees.
so the choice was easy.
thank you for your help.
Congrats and kudos to TS!
Scopes: Stellarvue: SV102ED; Celestron: 9.25" EdgeHD, 8" SCT, 150ST, Onyx 80ED; iOptron: Hankmeister 6" Mak; SW: 7" Mak; Meade: 80ST.
Mounts: SW: SkyTee2, AzGTi; iOptron: AZMP; ES: Twilight I; Bresser: EXOS2; UA: MicroStar.
Binos: APM: 100-90 APO; Canon: IS 15x50; Orion: Binoviewer, LG II 15x70, WV 10x50, Nikon: AE 16x50, 10x50, 8x40.
EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.

Observing: DSOs: 3106 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2180, S110: 77). Doubles: 2382, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 255
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I would go with an iOptron CEM40 myself, but that's just because of my personal experience with both Celestron and iOptron mounts.
I've owned an AVX, CGX and now iOptron CEM70.
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Scopes: Celestron EdgeHD14", Explore Scientific ED152CF & ED127 APO's, StellarVue SV70T, Classic Orange-Tube C-8, Lunt 80mm Ha double-stack solar scope.
Mounts: Astro-Physics Mach One, iOptron CEM70EC Mount, iOptron ZEQ25 Mount.
Cameras: ZWO ASI2600mm Pro, ZWO 2600MC Pro, ZWO ASI1600mm
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Eyepieces: 27mm TeleVue Panoptic, 4mm TeleVue Radian, Explore Scientific 82° 30mm, 6.7mm , Baader 13mm Hyperion, Explore Scientific 70° 10mm, 15mm, 20mm, Meade 8.8mm UWA
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Excellent news Jean-Yves!
I hope you have many enjoyable evenings with it :)
See Far Sticks: Antares Elita 103/1575, AOM FLT 105/1000, Bresser BV 127/1200, Nočný stopár 152/1200, Vyrobené doma 70/700, Stellarvue NHNG DX 80/552, TAL RS100/1000, Vixen SD115s/885
EQ: TAL MT-1, Vixen SXP, AXJ, AXD
Az/Alt: AYO Digi II/ Argo Navis, Stellarvue M2C/ Argo Navis
Tripods: Berlebach Planet (2), Uni 28 Astro, Report 372, TAL factory maple, Vixen ASG-CB90, Vixen AXD-TR102
Diagonals: Astro-Physics, Baader Amici, Baader Herschel, iStar Blue, Stellarvue DX, Takahashi prism, TAL, Vixen flip mirror
Eyepieces: Antares to Zeiss
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