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Alignment on Az/Gte mount

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I'm sure I'm doing something wrong that I haven't picked up on. I'm getting more into this hobby and have been trying to do more with this mount than just use the HC to look at things. Tonight, I tried to use the 2 star alignment feature. I used Vega and Altair . The alignment process went well but here's my problem...After doing the 2 star alignment any object I picked to view resulted in the scope just going around and around. I mean I let it do it's thing for about 1/2 hour, while keeping the cords safe, and it just kept slewing in circles....left/right as well as well as up/down...if that makes sense...If it had just pointed to the ground then at least I would know I had coordinates wrong, but this just keeps slewing all over. Any ideas of what might be happening?
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Re: Alignment on Az/Gte mount

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Make sure that you have the right location and date/time set.

Also, on this mount you can put your scope on the left or right. Make sure it is on the right from mount like in my photo.

Make sure that the battery is fully charged.
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Re: Alignment on Az/Gte mount

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Thank you for the reply. You may have hit it on the head...My scope is on the left side, opposite of yours. I'll try it on the right side and see what happens. It was just odd that the 2 star alignment went ok. I used Vega first and then went to Altair...Altair was close but needed a small amount of tweaking to center it. Then, when I selected any object to view, the mount just slewed all over the place...
Telescopes: SvBony SV503 80mm, Apertura AD10, Daystar SS60DS,Bresser AR-127s, 6" GSO Ritchey-Chretien Astrograph
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Baader Hyperion Mark IV 8-24mm zoom, Hyperion zoom barlow 2.25x
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Re: Alignment on Az/Gte mount

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Try using Mirfac and Altair as your alignment stars. They're further apart which is something that helps your mount and it's goto alignment.
∞ Primary Scopes: #1: Celestron CPC1100 #2: 8" f/7.5 Dob #3: CR150HD f/8 6" frac
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∞ G&G Scopes: #1: Meade 102mm f/7.8 #2: Bresser 102mm f/4.5
∞ Guide Scopes: 70 & 80mm fracs -- The El Cheapo Bros.
∞ Mounts: iOptron CEM70AG, SW EQ6, Celestron AVX, SLT & GT (Alt-Az), Meade DS2000
∞ Cameras: #1: ZWO ASI294MC Pro #2: 662MC #3: 120MC, Canon T3i, Orion SSAG, WYZE Cam3
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Re: Alignment on Az/Gte mount

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GoTo mounts (at least those I have) are gimmicky. But once you figure out proper procedure, it works consistently.
Scopes: Stellarvue: SV102ED; Celestron: 9.25" EdgeHD, 8" SCT, 150ST, Onyx 80ED; iOptron: Hankmeister 6" Mak; SW: 7" Mak; Meade: 80ST.
Mounts: SW: SkyTee2, AzGTi; iOptron: AZMP; ES: Twilight I; Bresser: EXOS2; UA: MicroStar.
Binos: APM: 100-90 APO; Canon: IS 15x50; Orion: Binoviewer, LG II 15x70, WV 10x50, Nikon: AE 16x50, 10x50, 8x40.
EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.

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Re: Alignment on Az/Gte mount

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Ok. I can try your suggestions but I don't see how they would cause my issues. I mean using stars farther apart? Yea, I can see where that will improve accuracy but how would it make my mount just keep slewing in circles left and right continuously? If I had my coordinates wrong and say, just as an example, the mount thinks it's in Australia, wouldn't the mount just basically point towards the ground if I'm in the Northern Hemisphere? I let the mount do it's thing for literally a half hour and it never stopped slewing...
Telescopes: SvBony SV503 80mm, Apertura AD10, Daystar SS60DS,Bresser AR-127s, 6" GSO Ritchey-Chretien Astrograph
Mounts: Skywatcher AZ-GTe, EQ6-R Pro
EPs: Baader Q turret with 32mm Classic Plossl and 18mm, 10mm, 6mm Classic Orthos and Q Turret barlow 2.25x
Baader Hyperion Mark IV 8-24mm zoom, Hyperion zoom barlow 2.25x
Filters: Celestron Variable Polarizing, SvBony F9131A UHC, Baader O III 10nm, Classic Lumicon O III, homemade solar filter with Baader OD 5.0 film, Optolong UV/IR cut
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Re: Alignment on Az/Gte mount

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Razz wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 1:52 ambut how would it make my mount just keep slewing in circles left and right continuously?
My Meade HB (hand box) has a function that allows you to search for an object that is supposed to be within the FOV. It uses a "spiral scan" with ever-increasing diameters. Could you have a "stuck" button on your HC?
∞ Primary Scopes: #1: Celestron CPC1100 #2: 8" f/7.5 Dob #3: CR150HD f/8 6" frac
∞ AP Scopes: #1: TPO 6" f/9 RC #2: ES 102 f/7 APO #3: ES 80mm f/6 APO
∞ G&G Scopes: #1: Meade 102mm f/7.8 #2: Bresser 102mm f/4.5
∞ Guide Scopes: 70 & 80mm fracs -- The El Cheapo Bros.
∞ Mounts: iOptron CEM70AG, SW EQ6, Celestron AVX, SLT & GT (Alt-Az), Meade DS2000
∞ Cameras: #1: ZWO ASI294MC Pro #2: 662MC #3: 120MC, Canon T3i, Orion SSAG, WYZE Cam3
∞ Binos: 10X50,11X70,15X70, 25X100
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Re: Alignment on Az/Gte mount

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JayTee wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 4:21 am
Razz wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 1:52 ambut how would it make my mount just keep slewing in circles left and right continuously?
My Meade HB (hand box) has a function that allows you to search for an object that is supposed to be within the FOV. It uses a "spiral scan" with ever-increasing diameters. Could you have a "stuck" button on your HC?
That's a good thought. I'll check that out. Thanks.

Edit: Ok, it has to be something with the HC. I set the mount up inside and did a fake 2 star alignment. After "centering" the first star, I, of course, picked the second star and on the HC display, I could see the az/alt degrees changing as they should. However, when the alignment was complete and I chose an object to view, the az/alt degrees fluctuated very little as the mount did just what it did last night. It was continually moving to the right and a little up/down. Then I decided to use Stellarium to control the mount. The mount did as it should have. Next clear night, I'll be using the laptop and see what happens.
Telescopes: SvBony SV503 80mm, Apertura AD10, Daystar SS60DS,Bresser AR-127s, 6" GSO Ritchey-Chretien Astrograph
Mounts: Skywatcher AZ-GTe, EQ6-R Pro
EPs: Baader Q turret with 32mm Classic Plossl and 18mm, 10mm, 6mm Classic Orthos and Q Turret barlow 2.25x
Baader Hyperion Mark IV 8-24mm zoom, Hyperion zoom barlow 2.25x
Filters: Celestron Variable Polarizing, SvBony F9131A UHC, Baader O III 10nm, Classic Lumicon O III, homemade solar filter with Baader OD 5.0 film, Optolong UV/IR cut
Cameras: Canon EOS Rebel T3i, ASI 224 mc
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Re: Alignment on Az/Gte mount

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Razz wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 10:59 am
JayTee wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 4:21 am
Razz wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 1:52 ambut how would it make my mount just keep slewing in circles left and right continuously?
My Meade HB (hand box) has a function that allows you to search for an object that is supposed to be within the FOV. It uses a "spiral scan" with ever-increasing diameters. Could you have a "stuck" button on your HC?
That's a good thought. I'll check that out. Thanks.

Edit: Ok, it has to be something with the HC. I set the mount up inside and did a fake 2 star alignment. After "centering" the first star, I, of course, picked the second star and on the HC display, I could see the az/alt degrees changing as they should. However, when the alignment was complete and I chose an object to view, the az/alt degrees fluctuated very little as the mount did just what it did last night. It was continually moving to the right and a little up/down. Then I decided to use Stellarium to control the mount. The mount did as it should have. Next clear night, I'll be using the laptop and see what happens.
I don't have HC as I prefer to control the scopes from SkySafari on the phone. Glad you have figured it out.
Scopes: Stellarvue: SV102ED; Celestron: 9.25" EdgeHD, 8" SCT, 150ST, Onyx 80ED; iOptron: Hankmeister 6" Mak; SW: 7" Mak; Meade: 80ST.
Mounts: SW: SkyTee2, AzGTi; iOptron: AZMP; ES: Twilight I; Bresser: EXOS2; UA: MicroStar.
Binos: APM: 100-90 APO; Canon: IS 15x50; Orion: Binoviewer, LG II 15x70, WV 10x50, Nikon: AE 16x50, 10x50, 8x40.
EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.

Observing: DSOs: 3106 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2180, S110: 77). Doubles: 2382, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 255
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Here's a wild thought, the knobs that allow you to loosen the axes so you can move the scope freely, are those knobs cinched down tight for your go-to-alignment?
∞ Primary Scopes: #1: Celestron CPC1100 #2: 8" f/7.5 Dob #3: CR150HD f/8 6" frac
∞ AP Scopes: #1: TPO 6" f/9 RC #2: ES 102 f/7 APO #3: ES 80mm f/6 APO
∞ G&G Scopes: #1: Meade 102mm f/7.8 #2: Bresser 102mm f/4.5
∞ Guide Scopes: 70 & 80mm fracs -- The El Cheapo Bros.
∞ Mounts: iOptron CEM70AG, SW EQ6, Celestron AVX, SLT & GT (Alt-Az), Meade DS2000
∞ Cameras: #1: ZWO ASI294MC Pro #2: 662MC #3: 120MC, Canon T3i, Orion SSAG, WYZE Cam3
∞ Binos: 10X50,11X70,15X70, 25X100
∞ EPs: ES 2": 21mm 100° & 30mm 82° Pentax XW: 7, 10, 14, & 20mm 70°

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JayTee wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 6:53 pm Here's a wild thought, the knobs that allow you to loosen the axes so you can move the scope freely, are those knobs cinched down tight for your go-to-alignment?

Yea, they are tight but not crazy tight like I used a pipe wrench...I'm not sure if you saw my last post or the fact that I had edited it, but I believe the issue is with the HC because everything seems to work fine if I control the mount with Stellarium. I'll know better when I actually get another clear night to test it out.
Telescopes: SvBony SV503 80mm, Apertura AD10, Daystar SS60DS,Bresser AR-127s, 6" GSO Ritchey-Chretien Astrograph
Mounts: Skywatcher AZ-GTe, EQ6-R Pro
EPs: Baader Q turret with 32mm Classic Plossl and 18mm, 10mm, 6mm Classic Orthos and Q Turret barlow 2.25x
Baader Hyperion Mark IV 8-24mm zoom, Hyperion zoom barlow 2.25x
Filters: Celestron Variable Polarizing, SvBony F9131A UHC, Baader O III 10nm, Classic Lumicon O III, homemade solar filter with Baader OD 5.0 film, Optolong UV/IR cut
Cameras: Canon EOS Rebel T3i, ASI 224 mc
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Re: Alignment on Az/Gte mount

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Here's another wild thought, you might want to peruse this post and hope somebody can answer it.

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∞ Primary Scopes: #1: Celestron CPC1100 #2: 8" f/7.5 Dob #3: CR150HD f/8 6" frac
∞ AP Scopes: #1: TPO 6" f/9 RC #2: ES 102 f/7 APO #3: ES 80mm f/6 APO
∞ G&G Scopes: #1: Meade 102mm f/7.8 #2: Bresser 102mm f/4.5
∞ Guide Scopes: 70 & 80mm fracs -- The El Cheapo Bros.
∞ Mounts: iOptron CEM70AG, SW EQ6, Celestron AVX, SLT & GT (Alt-Az), Meade DS2000
∞ Cameras: #1: ZWO ASI294MC Pro #2: 662MC #3: 120MC, Canon T3i, Orion SSAG, WYZE Cam3
∞ Binos: 10X50,11X70,15X70, 25X100
∞ EPs: ES 2": 21mm 100° & 30mm 82° Pentax XW: 7, 10, 14, & 20mm 70°

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