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Re: Vixen ED81S f/8
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Re: Vixen ED81S f/8
Ok, here I think is what is right but not certain:
If I use a 0.67 reducer/flattener, then I use this set-up:
TSNikon (T ring), to VI2954 (M60 to T2) to reducer/flattener to scope?
Do I need any tube or spacer for this set-up?
If I don't use a flattener, all I need is a 2 Inch Prime Focus Camera Adapter to connect directly with the scope? Seems it should the 2.0", not 1.25"?
And do I need any spacer or tube for this second set-up?
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Re: Vixen ED81S f/8
Every person I know that does AP has spare spacers and extension tubes, so probably a good idea to purchase 1 or 2
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Re: Vixen ED81S f/8
For the Vixen ED81S, what extension tubes do I get? I believe they should be 60mm thread to screw in both ends. I see tubes named M42x0.75, M48x0.75, 2"...but nothing indicating 60mm.Lady Fraktor wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:49 pm Every person I know that does AP has spare spacers and extension tubes, so probably a good idea to purchase 1 or 2
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Re: Vixen ED81S f/8
The link I posted before shows a overall length of 178mm (177.7) not including the camera adapter so a good starting point I imagine.
You will have to find a tube to match your camera adapter threads to the reducer, from the reducer to the focuser.
You will likely get better answers if you post this question in theAP Beginners threads.
Have you used the telescope visually at all?
You will have to find a tube to match your camera adapter threads to the reducer, from the reducer to the focuser.
You will likely get better answers if you post this question in the
Have you used the telescope visually at all?
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See Far Sticks: Elita 103/1575, AOM FLT 105/1000, Bresser 127/1200 BV, Nočný stopár 152/1200, Vyrobené doma 70/700, Stellarvue NHNG DX 80/552, TAL RS 100/1000, Vixen SD115s/885
EQ: TAL MT-1, Vixen SXP, SXP2, AXJ, AXD
Az/Alt: AYO Digi II, Stellarvue M2C, Argo Navis encoders on both
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EQ: TAL MT-1, Vixen SXP, SXP2, AXJ, AXD
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Tripods: Berlebach Planet (2), Uni 28 Astro, Report 372, TAL factory maple, Vixen ASG-CB90, Vixen AXD-TR102
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Re: Vixen ED81S f/8
Just got all the parts but haven't used it yet. It's hard to find answers from shops that should know, like Vixen itself here in the US. Waiting on a few others to respond, including Te4lesop. The manual shows an M60 tube. My adapter goes from the T2 ring to 60mm, and the flattener/reducer is also 60mm.Lady Fraktor wrote: ↑Wed Nov 23, 2022 4:27 pm The link I posted before shows a overall length of 178mm (177.7) not including the camera adapter so a good starting point I imagine.
You will have to find a tube to match your camera adapter threads to the reducer, from the reducer to the focuser.
You will likely get better answers if you post this question in the AP Beginners threads.
Have you used the telescope visually at all?
But I'm having trouble finding a set of M60 extension tubes that allows them to be combined for multiple lengths. And no 1 seems to know the back focus point for the flattener/reducer I have. I have the combined version, not a separate flatterner and reducer.
Anyway, will try the
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Re: Vixen ED81S f/8
Explore Scientific is a Vixen distributor not Vixen itself so most of their employees have probably not used any of the Vixen equipment.
They have just started being the NA distributor so may take a bit of time to get up to speed.
They have just started being the NA distributor so may take a bit of time to get up to speed.
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EQ: TAL MT-1, Vixen SXP, SXP2, AXJ, AXD
Az/Alt: AYO Digi II, Stellarvue M2C, Argo Navis encoders on both
Tripods: Berlebach Planet (2), Uni 28 Astro, Report 372, TAL factory maple, Vixen ASG-CB90, Vixen AXD-TR102
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Az/Alt: AYO Digi II, Stellarvue M2C, Argo Navis encoders on both
Tripods: Berlebach Planet (2), Uni 28 Astro, Report 372, TAL factory maple, Vixen ASG-CB90, Vixen AXD-TR102
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Re: Vixen ED81S f/8
Waiting to hopefully hear back from 3 places (including american scientific and Teleskop and Vixen Japan). In the meantime, still a few questions:Lady Fraktor wrote: ↑Wed Nov 23, 2022 4:53 pm Explore Scientific is a Vixen distributor not Vixen itself so most of their employees have probably not used any of the Vixen equipment.
They have just started being the NA distributor so may take a bit of time to get up to speed.
1) it's hard to find m60 rings and tubes to get the right back-focus. With a crop sensor, would I lose anything if I use M42 tubes/rings/adapters? I think the image circle is 44mm. Not certain if that's relevant.
2) I can't find a flattener except from an expensive kit, and I already have a flattener/reducer combination unit for shooting at 420mm. Do I need a flattener at 625mm? Can't seem to find 1 unless I buy a kit.
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Re: Vixen ED81S f/8
I imagine this flattener may work
https://www.teleskop-express.de/shop/pr ... rture.html
https://www.teleskop-express.de/shop/pr ... rture.html
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See Far Sticks: Elita 103/1575, AOM FLT 105/1000, Bresser 127/1200 BV, Nočný stopár 152/1200, Vyrobené doma 70/700, Stellarvue NHNG DX 80/552, TAL RS 100/1000, Vixen SD115s/885
EQ: TAL MT-1, Vixen SXP, SXP2, AXJ, AXD
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EQ: TAL MT-1, Vixen SXP, SXP2, AXJ, AXD
Az/Alt: AYO Digi II, Stellarvue M2C, Argo Navis encoders on both
Tripods: Berlebach Planet (2), Uni 28 Astro, Report 372, TAL factory maple, Vixen ASG-CB90, Vixen AXD-TR102
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Re: Vixen ED81S f/8
On the scope side, the focuser is 2" M60. What is the thread on this flattener? Do I need an adapter if not M60?Lady Fraktor wrote: ↑Fri Nov 25, 2022 6:48 pm I imagine this flattener may work
https://www.teleskop-express.de/shop/pr ... rture.html
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Re: Vixen ED81S f/8
When on the description page click on the Technical Data tab, all the information is there.
If you look at the Vixen kit I posted above it gives all of the lengths/ diameters/ threads, you should be able to use it as a guide.
If you look at the Vixen kit I posted above it gives all of the lengths/ diameters/ threads, you should be able to use it as a guide.
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See Far Sticks: Elita 103/1575, AOM FLT 105/1000, Bresser 127/1200 BV, Nočný stopár 152/1200, Vyrobené doma 70/700, Stellarvue NHNG DX 80/552, TAL RS 100/1000, Vixen SD115s/885
EQ: TAL MT-1, Vixen SXP, SXP2, AXJ, AXD
Az/Alt: AYO Digi II, Stellarvue M2C, Argo Navis encoders on both
Tripods: Berlebach Planet (2), Uni 28 Astro, Report 372, TAL factory maple, Vixen ASG-CB90, Vixen AXD-TR102
Diagonals: Astro-Physics, Baader Amici, Baader Herschel, iStar Blue, Stellarvue DX, Tak prism, TAL, Vixen
Eyepieces: Antares to Zeiss (1011110)
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EQ: TAL MT-1, Vixen SXP, SXP2, AXJ, AXD
Az/Alt: AYO Digi II, Stellarvue M2C, Argo Navis encoders on both
Tripods: Berlebach Planet (2), Uni 28 Astro, Report 372, TAL factory maple, Vixen ASG-CB90, Vixen AXD-TR102
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Re: Vixen ED81S f/8
It doesn't give the thread on the scope side. It just says 2". How can I know if it will screw into the scope? It needs to be M60, right? My reducer has M60 and it screws it properly.Lady Fraktor wrote: ↑Fri Nov 25, 2022 7:18 pm When on the description page click on the Technical Data tab, all the information is there.
If you look at the Vixen kit I posted above it gives all of the lengths/ diameters/ threads, you should be able to use it as a guide.
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Re: Vixen ED81S f/8
It tells you twice actually ![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon/smile.gif)
Fits in like a eyepiece.
![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon/smile.gif)
Fits in like a eyepiece.
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See Far Sticks: Elita 103/1575, AOM FLT 105/1000, Bresser 127/1200 BV, Nočný stopár 152/1200, Vyrobené doma 70/700, Stellarvue NHNG DX 80/552, TAL RS 100/1000, Vixen SD115s/885
EQ: TAL MT-1, Vixen SXP, SXP2, AXJ, AXD
Az/Alt: AYO Digi II, Stellarvue M2C, Argo Navis encoders on both
Tripods: Berlebach Planet (2), Uni 28 Astro, Report 372, TAL factory maple, Vixen ASG-CB90, Vixen AXD-TR102
Diagonals: Astro-Physics, Baader Amici, Baader Herschel, iStar Blue, Stellarvue DX, Tak prism, TAL, Vixen
Eyepieces: Antares to Zeiss (1011110)
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EQ: TAL MT-1, Vixen SXP, SXP2, AXJ, AXD
Az/Alt: AYO Digi II, Stellarvue M2C, Argo Navis encoders on both
Tripods: Berlebach Planet (2), Uni 28 Astro, Report 372, TAL factory maple, Vixen ASG-CB90, Vixen AXD-TR102
Diagonals: Astro-Physics, Baader Amici, Baader Herschel, iStar Blue, Stellarvue DX, Tak prism, TAL, Vixen
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Re: Vixen ED81S f/8
I saw that, but it just says it's 2", and a filter thread. What is filter thread? Doesn't it have to be M60?Lady Fraktor wrote: ↑Fri Nov 25, 2022 7:34 pm It tells you twice actually
Fits in like a eyepiece.
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Re: Vixen ED81S f/8
I believe you are confusing yourself with numbers.
The focuser is 2" which is actually 50.8mm. A M60 would be to large to fit inside. I believe the only part that has a M60 thread is on the camera adapter though I may be wrong.
Threaded for filters means that you can screw a 2" filter onto the end of the barrel before sliding it into the focuser drawtube.
The focuser is 2" which is actually 50.8mm. A M60 would be to large to fit inside. I believe the only part that has a M60 thread is on the camera adapter though I may be wrong.
Threaded for filters means that you can screw a 2" filter onto the end of the barrel before sliding it into the focuser drawtube.
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See Far Sticks: Elita 103/1575, AOM FLT 105/1000, Bresser 127/1200 BV, Nočný stopár 152/1200, Vyrobené doma 70/700, Stellarvue NHNG DX 80/552, TAL RS 100/1000, Vixen SD115s/885
EQ: TAL MT-1, Vixen SXP, SXP2, AXJ, AXD
Az/Alt: AYO Digi II, Stellarvue M2C, Argo Navis encoders on both
Tripods: Berlebach Planet (2), Uni 28 Astro, Report 372, TAL factory maple, Vixen ASG-CB90, Vixen AXD-TR102
Diagonals: Astro-Physics, Baader Amici, Baader Herschel, iStar Blue, Stellarvue DX, Tak prism, TAL, Vixen
Eyepieces: Antares to Zeiss (1011110)
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See Far Sticks: Elita 103/1575, AOM FLT 105/1000, Bresser 127/1200 BV, Nočný stopár 152/1200, Vyrobené doma 70/700, Stellarvue NHNG DX 80/552, TAL RS 100/1000, Vixen SD115s/885
EQ: TAL MT-1, Vixen SXP, SXP2, AXJ, AXD
Az/Alt: AYO Digi II, Stellarvue M2C, Argo Navis encoders on both
Tripods: Berlebach Planet (2), Uni 28 Astro, Report 372, TAL factory maple, Vixen ASG-CB90, Vixen AXD-TR102
Diagonals: Astro-Physics, Baader Amici, Baader Herschel, iStar Blue, Stellarvue DX, Tak prism, TAL, Vixen
Eyepieces: Antares to Zeiss (1011110)
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Re: Vixen ED81S f/8
My reducer has these specs: Connection on telescope side: M60 male thread; camera side connection: M60 female threadLady Fraktor wrote: ↑Fri Nov 25, 2022 7:47 pm I believe you are confusing yourself with numbers.
The focuser is 2" which is actually 58mm. A M60 would be to large to fit inside. I believe the only part that has a M60 thread is on the camera adapter though I may be wrong.
Threaded for filters means that you can screw a 2" filter onto the end of the barrel before sliding it into the focuser drawtube.
I screw that directly into the scope. So the scope has to take M60, right, for this reducer to fit?
In the end, I just want to know what size thread is the male side of a flattener so it will fit into the scope. Some have M48. I thought if I got 1 with M42, I can then use my adapter ring to go from M42 to M60, then into the scope.
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Re: Vixen ED81S f/8
Post a link to the reducer and I will look tomorrow, time for bed here ![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon/smile.gif)
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See Far Sticks: Elita 103/1575, AOM FLT 105/1000, Bresser 127/1200 BV, Nočný stopár 152/1200, Vyrobené doma 70/700, Stellarvue NHNG DX 80/552, TAL RS 100/1000, Vixen SD115s/885
EQ: TAL MT-1, Vixen SXP, SXP2, AXJ, AXD
Az/Alt: AYO Digi II, Stellarvue M2C, Argo Navis encoders on both
Tripods: Berlebach Planet (2), Uni 28 Astro, Report 372, TAL factory maple, Vixen ASG-CB90, Vixen AXD-TR102
Diagonals: Astro-Physics, Baader Amici, Baader Herschel, iStar Blue, Stellarvue DX, Tak prism, TAL, Vixen
Eyepieces: Antares to Zeiss (1011110)
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EQ: TAL MT-1, Vixen SXP, SXP2, AXJ, AXD
Az/Alt: AYO Digi II, Stellarvue M2C, Argo Navis encoders on both
Tripods: Berlebach Planet (2), Uni 28 Astro, Report 372, TAL factory maple, Vixen ASG-CB90, Vixen AXD-TR102
Diagonals: Astro-Physics, Baader Amici, Baader Herschel, iStar Blue, Stellarvue DX, Tak prism, TAL, Vixen
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Re: Vixen ED81S f/8
It's the "Vixen Reducer & Flattener 0.67x for ED refractors by Vixen."Lady Fraktor wrote: ↑Fri Nov 25, 2022 8:37 pm Post a link to the reducer and I will look tomorrow, time for bed here![]()
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Re: Vixen ED81S f/8
There are probably some that are/ adaptable though I cannot supply links or recommendations due to being visual only.
Hopefully others will be along soon to help.
Hopefully others will be along soon to help.
Gabrielle
See Far Sticks: Elita 103/1575, AOM FLT 105/1000, Bresser 127/1200 BV, Nočný stopár 152/1200, Vyrobené doma 70/700, Stellarvue NHNG DX 80/552, TAL RS 100/1000, Vixen SD115s/885
EQ: TAL MT-1, Vixen SXP, SXP2, AXJ, AXD
Az/Alt: AYO Digi II, Stellarvue M2C, Argo Navis encoders on both
Tripods: Berlebach Planet (2), Uni 28 Astro, Report 372, TAL factory maple, Vixen ASG-CB90, Vixen AXD-TR102
Diagonals: Astro-Physics, Baader Amici, Baader Herschel, iStar Blue, Stellarvue DX, Tak prism, TAL, Vixen
Eyepieces: Antares to Zeiss (1011110)
The only culture I have is from yogurt
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See Far Sticks: Elita 103/1575, AOM FLT 105/1000, Bresser 127/1200 BV, Nočný stopár 152/1200, Vyrobené doma 70/700, Stellarvue NHNG DX 80/552, TAL RS 100/1000, Vixen SD115s/885
EQ: TAL MT-1, Vixen SXP, SXP2, AXJ, AXD
Az/Alt: AYO Digi II, Stellarvue M2C, Argo Navis encoders on both
Tripods: Berlebach Planet (2), Uni 28 Astro, Report 372, TAL factory maple, Vixen ASG-CB90, Vixen AXD-TR102
Diagonals: Astro-Physics, Baader Amici, Baader Herschel, iStar Blue, Stellarvue DX, Tak prism, TAL, Vixen
Eyepieces: Antares to Zeiss (1011110)
The only culture I have is from yogurt
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