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Pulled the trigger today on a new scope. Bought a astro tech 102ed from astronomics. Report will follow once it arrives.
Current scopes 16in night sky dobsonian , 80mm synta refractor on a slik professional tripod with a stellarvue m1 mount Meade series 4000 eyepieces. Meade 70mm binoculars. Keep looking up.

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They look like well built refractors and Astronomics seems to have a loyal following with these.
Hopefully it will arrive soon, I look forward to hearing your thoughts on it.
See Far Sticks: Antares Elita 103/1575, AOM FLT 105/1000, Bresser BV 127/1200, Nočný stopár 152/1200, Vyrobené doma 70/700, Stellarvue NHNG DX 80/552, TAL RS100/1000, Vixen SD115s/885
EQ: TAL MT-1, Vixen SXP, AXJ, AXD
Az/Alt: AYO Digi II/ Argo Navis, Stellarvue M2C/ Argo Navis
Tripods: Berlebach Planet (2), Uni 28 Astro, Report 372, TAL factory maple, Vixen ASG-CB90, Vixen AXD-TR102
Diagonals: Astro-Physics, Baader Amici, Baader Herschel, iStar Blue, Stellarvue DX, Takahashi prism, TAL, Vixen flip mirror
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Re: New scope

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Lady Fraktor wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:20 am They look like well built refractors and Astronomics seems to have a loyal following with these.
Hopefully it will arrive soon, I look forward to hearing your thoughts on it.
I think that just rebranded. Looks a LOT like stellarvue stuff.
Current scopes 16in night sky dobsonian , 80mm synta refractor on a slik professional tripod with a stellarvue m1 mount Meade series 4000 eyepieces. Meade 70mm binoculars. Keep looking up.

In route. Astrotech 102ed refractor :sprefac:
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Stellarvue are all built in-house now, the only out source is the glass blanks which are figured in-house as well.
See Far Sticks: Antares Elita 103/1575, AOM FLT 105/1000, Bresser BV 127/1200, Nočný stopár 152/1200, Vyrobené doma 70/700, Stellarvue NHNG DX 80/552, TAL RS100/1000, Vixen SD115s/885
EQ: TAL MT-1, Vixen SXP, AXJ, AXD
Az/Alt: AYO Digi II/ Argo Navis, Stellarvue M2C/ Argo Navis
Tripods: Berlebach Planet (2), Uni 28 Astro, Report 372, TAL factory maple, Vixen ASG-CB90, Vixen AXD-TR102
Diagonals: Astro-Physics, Baader Amici, Baader Herschel, iStar Blue, Stellarvue DX, Takahashi prism, TAL, Vixen flip mirror
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Re: New scope

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Roverich wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:07 am Pulled the trigger today on a new scope. Bought a astro tech 102ed from astronomics. Report will follow once it arrives.
I'm in the queue for one, no ship date yet.
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Congrats on the new glass Rich! You may need a new mount for that. With rings, diagonal, etc. it will push over 12lb, might be too heavy for M1.
Scopes: Stellarvue: SV102ED; Celestron: 9.25" EdgeHD, 8" SCT, 150ST, Onyx 80ED; iOptron: Hankmeister 6" Mak; SW: 7" Mak; Meade: 80ST.
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EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.

Observing: DSOs: 3106 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2180, S110: 77). Doubles: 2382, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 255
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Funny, I bought a Astro-Tech AT102ED today too! I think it is really an SvBONY SV503 102F7 ED rebranded. I almost bought the SvBONY instead until I saw the $98 shipping cost and Astronomics is only 163 miles away.
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Roverich wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:36 am
Lady Fraktor wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:20 am They look like well built refractors and Astronomics seems to have a loyal following with these.
Hopefully it will arrive soon, I look forward to hearing your thoughts on it.
I think that just rebranded. Looks a LOT like stellarvue stuff.
also looking like the lunt ingenering 102 ?
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Re: New scope

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The Wave Catcher wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 1:59 am Funny, I bought a Astro-Tech AT102ED today too! I think it is really an SvBONY SV503 102F7 ED rebranded. I almost bought the SvBONY instead until I saw the $98 shipping cost and Astronomics is only 163 miles away.
Astrotech is a specific brand manufactured for Astronomics who supply their own QA/QC, SvBony manufactures nothing and is only a re-seller.
See Far Sticks: Antares Elita 103/1575, AOM FLT 105/1000, Bresser BV 127/1200, Nočný stopár 152/1200, Vyrobené doma 70/700, Stellarvue NHNG DX 80/552, TAL RS100/1000, Vixen SD115s/885
EQ: TAL MT-1, Vixen SXP, AXJ, AXD
Az/Alt: AYO Digi II/ Argo Navis, Stellarvue M2C/ Argo Navis
Tripods: Berlebach Planet (2), Uni 28 Astro, Report 372, TAL factory maple, Vixen ASG-CB90, Vixen AXD-TR102
Diagonals: Astro-Physics, Baader Amici, Baader Herschel, iStar Blue, Stellarvue DX, Takahashi prism, TAL, Vixen flip mirror
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Lady Fraktor wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 4:22 am Astrotech is a specific brand manufactured for Astronomics who supply their own QA/QC [...]
That's what I thought. Good to have confirmation.
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It is often hard to track down actual manufacturers of our gear but one thing for sure is that from the available photos and specifications, the Astro-Tech AT102ED and the SvBONY SV503 102F7 ED are identical telescopes other than their paint jobs. If they are both rebranded from another source, then I'm glad that I purchased from my local Astronomics. My Bresser (German brand) is nearly identical to Explore Scientific, both now made in China, likely the same factory. So far, I have no complaints about the quality of the products. My favorite eyepieces that I own are Astro-Tech so I'll likely be pleased with their telescope.
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The Wave Catcher wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 12:51 pm It is often hard to track down actual manufacturers of our gear but one thing for sure is that from the available photos and specifications, the Astro-Tech AT102ED and the SvBONY SV503 102F7 ED are identical telescopes other than their paint jobs. If they are both rebranded from another source, then I'm glad that I purchased from my local Astronomics. My Bresser (German brand) is nearly identical to Explore Scientific, both now made in China, likely the same factory. So far, I have no complaints about the quality of the products. My favorite eyepieces that I own are Astro-Tech so I'll likely be pleased with their telescope.
Good chance they are made on the same factory and share parts, but the optics inside is different. AT has FK-61 ED glass and list weight of 9 lb, SvBONY SV503 102F7 ED has S-FPL51 glass and list weight of 12 lb.
Scopes: Stellarvue: SV102ED; Celestron: 9.25" EdgeHD, 8" SCT, 150ST, Onyx 80ED; iOptron: Hankmeister 6" Mak; SW: 7" Mak; Meade: 80ST.
Mounts: SW: SkyTee2, AzGTi; iOptron: AZMP; ES: Twilight I; Bresser: EXOS2; UA: MicroStar.
Binos: APM: 100-90 APO; Canon: IS 15x50; Orion: Binoviewer, LG II 15x70, WV 10x50, Nikon: AE 16x50, 10x50, 8x40.
EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.

Observing: DSOs: 3106 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2180, S110: 77). Doubles: 2382, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 255
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Re: New scope

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Too many people mistake insignificant specifications between models as confirmation of build.
AstroTech is made for Astronomics by Kunming United Optics and Astronomics have always openly discussed reasons for decisions to keep costs affordable.
APM also uses KUO for some of their product. (Possibly the Lunt 102mm)
Glass quality, coatings quality, build quality are what the more expensive QA/ QC is all about.

**Personal speculation coming up** :)
SvBony used to sell the 503 for $400.00 USD but now it is listed for $570.00 USD. I still think at this price, which I think is just priced to market is rejected/ factory seconds.
I imagine they will still work decently, but if compared to a more premium refractor of the same specifications the difference will be noticeable.
Email SvBony and ask what the target Strehl number is or what the lens cell is made of.
They supply nothing of consequence for information on their product.
See Far Sticks: Antares Elita 103/1575, AOM FLT 105/1000, Bresser BV 127/1200, Nočný stopár 152/1200, Vyrobené doma 70/700, Stellarvue NHNG DX 80/552, TAL RS100/1000, Vixen SD115s/885
EQ: TAL MT-1, Vixen SXP, AXJ, AXD
Az/Alt: AYO Digi II/ Argo Navis, Stellarvue M2C/ Argo Navis
Tripods: Berlebach Planet (2), Uni 28 Astro, Report 372, TAL factory maple, Vixen ASG-CB90, Vixen AXD-TR102
Diagonals: Astro-Physics, Baader Amici, Baader Herschel, iStar Blue, Stellarvue DX, Takahashi prism, TAL, Vixen flip mirror
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Lady Fraktor wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:25 pm Too many people mistake insignificant specifications between models as confirmation of build.
AstroTech is made for Astronomics by Kunming United Optics and Astronomics have always openly discussed reasons for decisions to keep costs affordable.
APM also uses KUO for some of their product.
Glass quality, coatings quality, build quality are what the more expensive QA/ QC is all about.

**Personal speculation coming up** :)
SvBony used to sell the 503 for $400.00 USD but now it is listed for $570.00 USD. I still think at this price, which I think is just priced to market is rejected/ factory seconds.
I imagine they will still work decently, but if compared to a more premium refractor of the same specifications the difference will be noticeable.
Email SvBony and ask what the target Strehl number is or what the lens cell is made of.
They supply nothing of consequence for information on their product.
I believe you are looking at the wrong price Gabby. SVBONY SV503 sells 70mm, 80mm and 102mm under the same model name. 70mm is $409, 80mm is $570 and 102mm is $699, while AT 102mm is $649 and 80mm is $429. So price alone could be misleading.



https://www.astronomics.com/telescopes. ... series=890

I see logic in your reasoning, but it is hard for me to believe that the whole product line is based on rejects.
Scopes: Stellarvue: SV102ED; Celestron: 9.25" EdgeHD, 8" SCT, 150ST, Onyx 80ED; iOptron: Hankmeister 6" Mak; SW: 7" Mak; Meade: 80ST.
Mounts: SW: SkyTee2, AzGTi; iOptron: AZMP; ES: Twilight I; Bresser: EXOS2; UA: MicroStar.
Binos: APM: 100-90 APO; Canon: IS 15x50; Orion: Binoviewer, LG II 15x70, WV 10x50, Nikon: AE 16x50, 10x50, 8x40.
EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.

Observing: DSOs: 3106 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2180, S110: 77). Doubles: 2382, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 255
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See Far Sticks: Antares Elita 103/1575, AOM FLT 105/1000, Bresser BV 127/1200, Nočný stopár 152/1200, Vyrobené doma 70/700, Stellarvue NHNG DX 80/552, TAL RS100/1000, Vixen SD115s/885
EQ: TAL MT-1, Vixen SXP, AXJ, AXD
Az/Alt: AYO Digi II/ Argo Navis, Stellarvue M2C/ Argo Navis
Tripods: Berlebach Planet (2), Uni 28 Astro, Report 372, TAL factory maple, Vixen ASG-CB90, Vixen AXD-TR102
Diagonals: Astro-Physics, Baader Amici, Baader Herschel, iStar Blue, Stellarvue DX, Takahashi prism, TAL, Vixen flip mirror
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Right, but that is shipped from China, shipping and duties would bring it closer to the US price.
Scopes: Stellarvue: SV102ED; Celestron: 9.25" EdgeHD, 8" SCT, 150ST, Onyx 80ED; iOptron: Hankmeister 6" Mak; SW: 7" Mak; Meade: 80ST.
Mounts: SW: SkyTee2, AzGTi; iOptron: AZMP; ES: Twilight I; Bresser: EXOS2; UA: MicroStar.
Binos: APM: 100-90 APO; Canon: IS 15x50; Orion: Binoviewer, LG II 15x70, WV 10x50, Nikon: AE 16x50, 10x50, 8x40.
EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.

Observing: DSOs: 3106 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2180, S110: 77). Doubles: 2382, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 255
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SvBONY has a local warehouse in the US so shipping times are less than a week. They still recoup the overseas shipping costs during the sale. It was going to be $98 US for delivery to Texas. They just ask that you contact them before ordering to make sure the product is still in stock at the warehouse.
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Re: New scope

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The Wave Catcher wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:09 am SvBONY has a local warehouse in the US so shipping times are less than a week. They still recoup the overseas shipping costs during the sale. It was going to be $98 US for delivery to Texas. They just ask that you contact them before ordering to make sure the product is still in stock at the warehouse.
There also available on Amazon.. that's where I was looking at them.
Current scopes 16in night sky dobsonian , 80mm synta refractor on a slik professional tripod with a stellarvue m1 mount Meade series 4000 eyepieces. Meade 70mm binoculars. Keep looking up.

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Re: New scope

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Bigzmey wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:43 pm I see logic in your reasoning, but it is hard for me to believe that the whole product line is based on rejects.
The manufacturer has to re-coup their production losses somehow so they sell the equipment rejected by other vendors.
I am not saying the product is garbage, just that it will not be 100% when compared to other product.
See Far Sticks: Antares Elita 103/1575, AOM FLT 105/1000, Bresser BV 127/1200, Nočný stopár 152/1200, Vyrobené doma 70/700, Stellarvue NHNG DX 80/552, TAL RS100/1000, Vixen SD115s/885
EQ: TAL MT-1, Vixen SXP, AXJ, AXD
Az/Alt: AYO Digi II/ Argo Navis, Stellarvue M2C/ Argo Navis
Tripods: Berlebach Planet (2), Uni 28 Astro, Report 372, TAL factory maple, Vixen ASG-CB90, Vixen AXD-TR102
Diagonals: Astro-Physics, Baader Amici, Baader Herschel, iStar Blue, Stellarvue DX, Takahashi prism, TAL, Vixen flip mirror
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Re: New scope

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Update on the scope. When I bought the thing I opted for standard shipping. Well . Six days later and they created a label so far.
Current scopes 16in night sky dobsonian , 80mm synta refractor on a slik professional tripod with a stellarvue m1 mount Meade series 4000 eyepieces. Meade 70mm binoculars. Keep looking up.

In route. Astrotech 102ed refractor :sprefac:
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