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NGC 1502 - The cluster at the end of Kemble's Cascade
Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 11:15 pm
by pakarinen
Entered coords from SS, so I expected this to be center field. Not sure if I made an entry error if SLOOH was off a tad. This one I've viewed visually at home with my fracs.
Re: NGC 1502 - The cluster at the end of Kemble's Cascade
Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 11:18 pm
by KathyNS
The centering problem might be related to J2000 vs. Jnow. That is roughly the magnitude of offset you would expect from that. Coordinates from an atlas or database will be J2000. Actual coordinates in the sky are always Jnow. Coordinates from software could be either.
Nice cluster, regardless!
Re: NGC 1502 - The cluster at the end of Kemble's Cascade
Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 11:25 pm
by notFritzArgelander
KathyNS wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 11:18 pm
The centering problem might be related to J2000 vs. Jnow. That is roughly the magnitude of offset you would expect from that. Coordinates from an atlas or database will be J2000. Actual coordinates in the sky are always Jnow. Coordinates from software could be either.
Nice cluster, regardless!
Exactly so.... on both counts.
Re: NGC 1502 - The cluster at the end of Kemble's Cascade
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:58 am
by Lady Fraktor
Unfortunate they did not include the cascade.
Kemble 1/
NGC 1502 is one of my favorites
Re: NGC 1502 - The cluster at the end of Kemble's Cascade
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2021 10:58 am
by pakarinen
Lady Fraktor wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:58 am
Unfortunate they did not include the cascade.
Kemble 1/ NGC 1502 is one of my favorites
Yeah, I'll check J2000 vs Jnow to center and also see if I can nudge the
FOV a bit to get at least some of the cascade.
Addendum: I checked the coords I entered and I had used J2021.7 from SkySafari. The J2000 from
DSS are 2-3 minutes / arc minutes different. For an experiment, I'm going to try the same scope and
DSS coords. Hold my beer...
Re: NGC 1502 - The cluster at the end of Kemble's Cascade
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:55 pm
by pakarinen
Well now, well now... I tried
NGC 1502 again using the same scopes - Canary 2 Wide Field and Ultra Wide Field - but coords from the
DSS SIMBAD coord finder.
Re: NGC 1502 - The cluster at the end of Kemble's Cascade
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:42 pm
by Ben Cartwright SASS
I have seen that often, especially with Canary One, the objects often are low in the fields.
I also sometimes make mistakes when I enter coordinates, ex. 45.5 minutes I put in as 45 minutes 30 seconds not sure if that is right
Re: NGC 1502 - The cluster at the end of Kemble's Cascade
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 1:27 pm
by pakarinen
Ben Cartwright SASS wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:42 pm
I have seen that often, especially with Canary One, the objects often are low in the fields.
30 arcseconds is half of an arcminute, so 0.5 would be correct. I'm using
DSS to get coords now:
https://archive.stsci.edu/cgi-bin/dss_form
Enter the object name, hit "GET COORDINATES", and the coords show below on the
RA and
Dec line. I sometimes retrieve a
DSS image just to compare to SLOOH.
Re: NGC 1502 - The cluster at the end of Kemble's Cascade
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:51 pm
by Ben Cartwright SASS
I can't use that for many of the objects I am trying to image for the Planetary Nebula program at the Astronomical League
Objects like
J320
Jonckheere 900
M1-7
JnEr1
etc