Potential Supernova 2020ue in NGC4636
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Potential Supernova 2020ue in NGC4636
http://www.rochesterastronomy.org/supernova.html#2020ue
https://britastro.org/node/20415 (This has a pointer to a AAVSO VSP chart)
https://www.cloudynights.com/topic/6904 ... n-ngc4636/
Still out of range in visual for me, but in range to image with the 80mm frac. From my balcony the best time would be around 5 am
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But if you try to see a Mag 13
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Yea I know... My 8dob is just not an adequate tool from my site... I tried it out two nights ago to see what mag. star I can see max. Turned out at 12.6 I already have to use averted vision... and the night was pretty good. And that was a single dot of light. How am I going to try to pick out a 12.8 dot in the haze of a galaxy? At least this last sn gives me hope cuz it is not in the galaxy halo. If it could just brighten 2-3 tens of mag. and I could have a decent sky too... in this season, so many ifs are like a conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn.
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I'm gonna have a go at it during tonight's dark period (actually early Monday morning). I think.
Supposed to be clear, but as usual, it looks like we'll have our terrible transparency and crap seeing conditions.
But, if your sky is always a pig sty, might as well be a pig.
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Check your references: http://www.rochesterastronomy.org/supernova.html#2020ue
But if your stellar limit with an 8" is only 12.6, then would be a struggle.
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And yea I know it will be a tough nut to crack but it will be doable and the first sn I actually have the chamce to see clearly! I haveone more logged but that was last year, the one so close to the core that I used up all my imagination not to come back empty handed... this time it's different!
P.s. guys, can u not do anything for the login to work again? On my phone I cannot log back, the link at the beginning of the forum is no good for the phone and I have had to sign in here from all kinds of foreign devices, so frustrating...
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Re: Potential Supernova 2020ue in NGC4636
The only estimate for SN2020ue that I've found is a projection of reaching mag 12.1 at its peak. However, you cannot take that as a certainty, but it does bear watching. The difficult task there is identifying which star it is in the field. It forms a sort of "X" pattern with four other foreground stars and is the brightest of the bunch. However, those four stars range from mag 15 to 17 so should not even be visible for you. The bright star south of the galaxy is mag 8.0 HD 110514. The image is courtesy of the British Astronomical Association web site. Hope that helps.milanpicard wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:58 pm Yea the rochester site but it does not put any updates on any of the sn! Frustrating...
And yea I know it will be a tough nut to crack but it will be doable and the first sn I actually have the chamce to see clearly! I haveone more logged but that was last year, the one so close to the core that I used up all my imagination not to come back empty handed... this time it's different!
P.s. guys, can u not do anything for the login to work again? On my phone I cannot log back, the link at the beginning of the forum is no good for the phone and I have had to sign in here from all kinds of foreign devices, so frustrating...
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Milan, for your phone, see this: https://www.theskysearchers.com/viewtop ... 776#p54776milanpicard wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:58 pm Yea the rochester site but it does not put any updates on any of the sn! Frustrating...
And yea I know it will be a tough nut to crack but it will be doable and the first sn I actually have the chamce to see clearly! I haveone more logged but that was last year, the one so close to the core that I used up all my imagination not to come back empty handed... this time it's different!
P.s. guys, can u not do anything for the login to work again? On my phone I cannot log back, the link at the beginning of the forum is no good for the phone and I have had to sign in here from all kinds of foreign devices, so frustrating...
This issue is fixed, you just need to clear your cookies/cache.
This SN is fairly easy to pick out. I scored it this morning. Go for it.
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How about SN2020oi in M100?bladekeeper wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:29 pmmilanpicard wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:58 pm Yea the rochester site but it does not put any updates on any of the sn! Frustrating...
And yea I know it will be a tough nut to crack but it will be doable and the first sn I actually have the chamce to see clearly! I haveone more logged but that was last year, the one so close to the core that I used up all my imagination not to come back empty handed... this time it's different!
P.s. guys, can u not do anything for the login to work again? On my phone I cannot log back, the link at the beginning of the forum is no good for the phone and I have had to sign in here from all kinds of foreign devices, so frustrating...
This SN is fairly easy to pick out. I scored it this morning. Go for it.
Scopes: Astro Sky 17.5 f/4.5 Dob || Apertura AD12 f/5 Dob || Zhumell Z10 f/4.9 Dob ||
ES AR127 f/6.5 || ES ED80 f/6 || Apertura 6" f/5 Newtonian
Mounts: ES Twilight-II and Twilight-I
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ES 82° 18mm || Pentax XW 70° 10mm, 7mm and 5mm || barlows
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Nah, that one eluded me. I think a combination of core proximity, out of practice, and getting way too chilled to properly concentrate. Oi indeed!kt4hx wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:11 pmHow about SN2020oi in M100?bladekeeper wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:29 pmmilanpicard wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:58 pm Yea the rochester site but it does not put any updates on any of the sn! Frustrating...
And yea I know it will be a tough nut to crack but it will be doable and the first sn I actually have the chamce to see clearly! I haveone more logged but that was last year, the one so close to the core that I used up all my imagination not to come back empty handed... this time it's different!
P.s. guys, can u not do anything for the login to work again? On my phone I cannot log back, the link at the beginning of the forum is no good for the phone and I have had to sign in here from all kinds of foreign devices, so frustrating...
This SN is fairly easy to pick out. I scored it this morning. Go for it.
I'll get a report worked up here in a bit.
Scopes: Apertura AD12 f/5; Celestron C6-R f/8; ES AR127 f/6.4; Stellarvue SV102T f/7; iOptron MC90 f/13.3; Orion ST80A f/5; ES ED80 f/6; Celestron Premium 80 f/11.4; Celestron C80 f/11.4; Unitron Model 142 f/16; Meade NG60 f/10
Mounts: Celestron AVX; Bresser EXOS-2; ES Twilight I; ES Twilight II; iOptron Cube-G; AZ3/wood tripod; Vixen Polaris
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Perhaps your teeth were chattering to much for you to resolve it from the core!bladekeeper wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:47 pmNah, that one eluded me. I think a combination of core proximity, out of practice, and getting way too chilled to properly concentrate. Oi indeed!kt4hx wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:11 pmHow about SN2020oi in M100?bladekeeper wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:29 pm
This SN is fairly easy to pick out. I scored it this morning. Go for it.
I'll get a report worked up here in a bit.
Scopes: Astro Sky 17.5 f/4.5 Dob || Apertura AD12 f/5 Dob || Zhumell Z10 f/4.9 Dob ||
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Mounts: ES Twilight-II and Twilight-I
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ES 82° 18mm || Pentax XW 70° 10mm, 7mm and 5mm || barlows
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Primary Field Atlases: Uranometria All-Sky Edition and Interstellarum Deep Sky Atlas
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Darn near it!
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Thanks for the encouragement and info Alan, I hope to catch my first real sn on qThursday night when forecast says it will finally clear. I hope!! Fingers crossed!!
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Well, if it is any consolation, we still love you, my friend.milanpicard wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:28 pm Well, typical. I did everything with my phone that the link said, Bryan, still it says "invalid blahblah", I cannot access the site from my phone. It is scientifically because every electrical gadget hates me. It is a proven fact. Everyone can do it, but I am always special.
Thanks for the encouragement and info Alan, I hope to catch my first real sn on qThursday night when forecast says it will finally clear. I hope!! Fingers crossed!!
Good luck on the SN, Milan!
Scopes: Apertura AD12 f/5; Celestron C6-R f/8; ES AR127 f/6.4; Stellarvue SV102T f/7; iOptron MC90 f/13.3; Orion ST80A f/5; ES ED80 f/6; Celestron Premium 80 f/11.4; Celestron C80 f/11.4; Unitron Model 142 f/16; Meade NG60 f/10
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One important question, Bryan... and others, why not.? Did you not see the other sn because it cannot be seen or because you were not trying hard? Do I have a shot with my 8dob and well-advertised home conditions? Because if not, I would not like to waste time with it at 4am, would just go back to sleep after the first sn. Tomorrow it says clear sky, I am so excited for my first sn!!
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Milan, the biggest issue with SN2020oi (which has now dropped to 13.6) is its proximity to the core of M100. It is only about 4" north of the core. Because of the brightness of the core it can be difficult to resolve them visually. Look at the image above, that gives you some sense of what I am talking about.
Scopes: Astro Sky 17.5 f/4.5 Dob || Apertura AD12 f/5 Dob || Zhumell Z10 f/4.9 Dob ||
ES AR127 f/6.5 || ES ED80 f/6 || Apertura 6" f/5 Newtonian
Mounts: ES Twilight-II and Twilight-I
EPs: AT 82° 28mm UWA || TV Ethos 100° 21mm and 13mm || Vixen LVW 65° 22mm ||
ES 82° 18mm || Pentax XW 70° 10mm, 7mm and 5mm || barlows
Filters (2 inch): DGM NPB || Orion Ultra Block, O-III and Sky Glow || Baader HaB
Primary Field Atlases: Uranometria All-Sky Edition and Interstellarum Deep Sky Atlas
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"Seeing is in some respect an art, which must be learnt." (William Herschel)
"What we know is a drop, what we don't know is an ocean." (Sir Isaac Newton)
"No good deed goes unpunished." (various)
“Some people without brains do an awful lot of talking, don't you think?” (Scarecrow, The Wonderful Wizard of Oz)
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