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Hello everybody,
I'm interested in getting a used Meade ETX-125 EC for packing in the camper when I go on a trip. It can be set up as a EQ but can it be guided with a guide scope and PHD2. I plan on doing the alignment etc. and swap the finder scope for the guide scope. I believe if I can get a long enough exposure I can take a photo of it with my Sony a6000.

Anybody doing what I'm wondering about?

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Belay my last, I've decided to go with Explore Scientific iEXOS-100 PMC-Eight Equatorial GoTo Mount System. It appears to be much better and a lot less.
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The mount says it carries 8.6 kg, so that's about 4.3 kg for astro (50% load). what scope are you using ?

edit:hang on, i don't think counterweight is included on the load, the weights are 2x1kg
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Counterweights do not subtract from the capacity. So it is still 8.6 kg for visual, 4.3 kg for AP.
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I’ll be using a guide scope and my Sony a6000 camera. I was worried I may have to add a little weight to balance out the counterweights.
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The last thing you want to do is add more weight to this mount. Don't use both counterweights. You are going for as light a payload as you can get away with!

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what focal length scope are you using ?, there are smaller lighter mount packages out there for small scope/dslr camera photography ,only down side is the ones i checked out only auto guide in ra, not a big deal with a good polar align and reasonable focal length .The mount you're interested in looks more suitable for a longer fl 200mm-400mm + range ,the pros is that it can find your targets with go to, and mosaic imaging/framing.the tri pod looks pretty flimsy, probably would only extend the legs to tier 1 and keep it low to the ground. if you do get this mount, i'd like to hear your opinion on it, i do travel and do a little wide shot astro work when i can.

if wide shot imaging of the milky way is your go then i'd probs recommend something smaller like the Star Adventurer or similar. i took a 1 min exposure of the milky way with a 50 mm lense, i didn't even polar align, i just pointed the mount with a compass ..
scopes :gso/bintel f4 12"truss tube, bresser messier ar127s /skywatcher 10'' dob,meade 12'' f10 lx200 sct
cameras : asi 1600mm-c/asi1600mm-c,asi120mc,prostar lp guidecam, nikkon d60, sony a7,asi 290 mm
mounts : eq6 pro/eq8/mesu 200 v2
filters : 2'' astronomik lp/badder lrgb h-a,sII,oIII,h-b,Baader Solar Continuum, chroma 3nm ha,sii,oiii,nii,rgb,lowglow,uv/ir,Thousand Oaks Solar Filter,1.25'' #47 violet,pro planet 742 ir,pro planet 807 ir,pro planet 642 bp ir.
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If you can't balance the camera with only one counterweight at the top of the bar, then you need a smaller counterweight.

For lightweight loads, I picked up a pair of hand weights and improvised a mount with a pair of pipe clamps. Or you can probably order lighter weights that are made for your mount.
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https://www.cloudynights.com/topic/6432 ... try9153116
This guy is doing really well with a 135mm Samyang Lens. I’m following his lead.
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I’ll be using the 70-210 kit lens and maybe my 400mm mirror lens for start. I have a 60 mm FL 715mm guide lens I’ll attach to the mount and piggy back the camera ...I hope,
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Ooops, that guide camera has a FL of 215mm not 715mm.
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I think you'll do fine without the need for a guide scope with a 70-210 kit, those users at cn are doing narrowband with 5 min subs.

with a a600 and a 210 mm lense it brings the resolution to 3.81''/pixel plenty of room for tracking error ,i don't know what the performance is like with the mount but there probably isn't really a need to do star guiding even for 5 mins,the setup from a users at cn is using a 135mm lense with an asi1600mm-c with a resolution of 5.93''/pixel and the guide graph is 1.60''/pixel , more than enough for a 200mm lense and under.

don't mind my blabbering,i'm just intrigue on the performance of the mount from the images of the gear and guide graph , i reckon it could do alot more than a 200mm lense. i'll have to see if these mounts are sold here in aus :D

edit: here is an image from a user at cn, used a 80mm refractor at 600mm fl 3 min exposure with guiding.

https://www.cloudynights.com/uploads/mo ... 665502.jpg
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scopes :gso/bintel f4 12"truss tube, bresser messier ar127s /skywatcher 10'' dob,meade 12'' f10 lx200 sct
cameras : asi 1600mm-c/asi1600mm-c,asi120mc,prostar lp guidecam, nikkon d60, sony a7,asi 290 mm
mounts : eq6 pro/eq8/mesu 200 v2
filters : 2'' astronomik lp/badder lrgb h-a,sII,oIII,h-b,Baader Solar Continuum, chroma 3nm ha,sii,oiii,nii,rgb,lowglow,uv/ir,Thousand Oaks Solar Filter,1.25'' #47 violet,pro planet 742 ir,pro planet 807 ir,pro planet 642 bp ir.
extras : skywatcher f4 aplanatic cc, Baader MPCC MKIII Coma Corrector,Orion Field Flattener,zwo 1.25''adc.starlight maxi 2" 9x filter wheel,tele vue 2x barlow .

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Thanks for the reply, you know a lot more than me! If I can get 4 or minute exposures I'd be very happy!

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