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Re: Beginner with 4 choices, pls help

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mmrmm wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 3:31 pm I believe I will go with this one indeed.
https://www.astroshop.pt/telescopios/om ... r_1_select

With all the support from Lady Fraktor and some other useful contribution I understood I need an alignment / collimation eyepiece. Is that still true for this telescope above? Would this one be ok?
https://www.astroshop.pt/ponteiro-a-las ... cao/p,4577

It comes with a plossl 25mm, should I include a 17mm as well?
https://www.astroshop.pt/oculares/omego ... 25-/p,4386

As you may realize I want to take advantage of the black weekend, so if there is anything that makes sense on this link pls help me to identify.
https://www.astroshop.pt/oculares/15_10 ... verkauf=Ja
Good for you!
Great choice, I'm sure you will have a lot of fun with that telescope! Also keep in mind that it is not a "beginner's scope" but a quite serious scope in the sense that it will keep you entertained for many years to come.

Have fun!
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Re: Beginner with 4 choices, pls help

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You will still need a collimation cap to make sure the secondary is square under the focuser tube, a laser (which I will still say is not the best when beginning) will not do this for you.
Enjoy the telescope and ask any questions that arise :)
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Re: Beginner with 4 choices, pls help

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Lady Fraktor wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2019 6:14 pm You will still need a collimation cap to make sure the secondary is square under the focuser tube, a laser (which I will still say is not the best when beginning) will not do this for you.
Enjoy the telescope and ask any questions that arise :)
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Lady Fraktor wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2019 6:14 pm You will still need a collimation cap to make sure the secondary is square under the focuser tube, a laser (which I will still say is not the best when beginning) will not do this for you.
Enjoy the telescope and ask any questions that arise :)
I just realized I did not have that on my order... ;(
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Is the laser useless without the cap? ;(
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I just asked them via email to add to the order, let see...

Isn’t it strange that they see so many telescopes and gear, but only have one collimation cap from a single brand (TS optics)?
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mmrmm wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2019 8:39 pm Is the laser useless without the cap? ;(
Not entirely, no. But you need the cap to make sure the secondary mirror is well positioned.
Scopes: Refs: Orion ST80, SV 80EDA f7, TS 102ED f11 Newts: AWB 130mm, f5, Z12 f5; Cats: VMC110L, Intes MK66,VMC200L f9.75 EPs: KK Fujiyama Orthoscopics, 2x Vixen NPLs (40-6mm) and BCOs, Baader Mark IV zooms, TV Panoptics, Delos, Plossl 32-8mm. Mixed brand Masuyama/Astroplans Binoculars: Nikon Aculon 10x50, Celestron 15x70, Baader Maxbright. Mounts: Star Seeker IV, Vixen Porta II, Celestron CG5
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mmrmm wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2019 8:48 pm I just asked them via email to add to the order, let see...

Isn’t it strange that they see so many telescopes and gear, but only have one collimation cap from a single brand (TS optics)?
Not really. They're an easy "do it yourself" project.
Scopes: Refs: Orion ST80, SV 80EDA f7, TS 102ED f11 Newts: AWB 130mm, f5, Z12 f5; Cats: VMC110L, Intes MK66,VMC200L f9.75 EPs: KK Fujiyama Orthoscopics, 2x Vixen NPLs (40-6mm) and BCOs, Baader Mark IV zooms, TV Panoptics, Delos, Plossl 32-8mm. Mixed brand Masuyama/Astroplans Binoculars: Nikon Aculon 10x50, Celestron 15x70, Baader Maxbright. Mounts: Star Seeker IV, Vixen Porta II, Celestron CG5
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mmrmm wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2019 8:39 pm Is the laser useless without the cap? ;(
Yes and no, if your secondary is positioned properly the laser is quick and accurate.
If your secondary is not aligned, just using a laser is a big pain where you sit.

The collimation cap/ Cheshire will have you aligned in minutes without the laser.

As added information, the chances of your laser arriving in collimation (pointing out straight from the holder) are quite slim so you may want to do a search on how to collimate a laser collimator :)
See Far Sticks: Antares Elita 103/1575, AOM FLT 105/1000, Bresser BV 127/1200, Nočný stopár 152/1200, Vyrobené doma 70/700, Stellarvue NHNG DX 80/552, TAL RS100/1000, Vixen SD115s/885
EQ: TAL MT-1, Vixen SXP, AXJ, AXD
Az/Alt: AYO Digi II/ Argo Navis, Stellarvue M2C/ Argo Navis
Tripods: Berlebach Planet (2), Uni 28 Astro, Report 372, TAL factory maple, Vixen ASG-CB90, Vixen AXD-TR102
Diagonals: Astro-Physics, Baader Amici, Baader Herschel, iStar Blue, Stellarvue DX, Takahashi prism, TAL, Vixen flip mirror
Eyepieces: Antares to Zeiss
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