Not really, but I do have a decent set of binoculars.Marcelo F. wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 9:32 amSince this post is already on the third page and nobody asked the question yet, here goes:mmrmm wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:43 pm Hi,
I got the following shortlist from astroshop for Newton with a tripod.
Bresser Telescópio N 130/650 EQ3 Spica
Orion Telescópio N 114/450 EQ-1 Starblast II AstroTrack
Orion Telescópio N130/650 SpaceProbe EQ-2
Skywatcher Telescópio N 130/650 Explorer-130PS AZ-EQ Avant
May I please get some support in choosing? I believe the 4 are parabolic and not spherical. Is this so important, meaning I am taking the right approach in bringing down the choices...?
All the telescopes are between 250€ and 300€.
I manly want to observe the moon and planets, would love to see those rings...
Of course that afterwards I may get excited by far reach, nebulosas, etc.
Thanks in advanced!!
Have you ever looked into the night sky with some good binoculars?
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I dunno, I guess I'm with SkyHiker on the use of laser collimators. I also bought the Howie Glatter TuBlug which I have found to give it that last little tweak. I have a Cheshire but never really liked it. OTOH I also prefer to set up in daylight, and lasers work great for that. And then again 95% of my telesope use is for
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If extreme portability is not your priority, I would recommend a Dobsonian. Yes, you need a
SkyHiker is right about the
If you want to stay within a 300 EUR budget and want a lot of value for it, I can recommend this Orion XT6:
https://eu.telescope.com/Telescopes/Dob ... goryId=533
Or this
https://www.teleskop-express.de/shop/pr ... uszug.html
Both are
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These are good recommendations. Whether or not you want astewe wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 6:41 pm Hi mmrrmm,
If extreme portability is not your priority, I would recommend a Dobsonian. Yes, you need a Dob, please read on.
SkyHiker is right about the EQ mount, notFritz is right about the Bird-Jones design. When I started this hobby, I bought a Bird-Jones scope on an EQ mount, so I perfectly agree with their reasoning. EQ mounts are meant for photography, and, let's admit it: you will not do photography with these scopes. You want to have great views. A cheap EQ mount without tracking is a ticket for a lot of frustration. What you want to max out is aperture and as a rule of thumb, the larger the f-ratio (in this price range) the better views the scope will give (the brightness of the image will not change!).
If you want to stay within a 300 EUR budget and want a lot of value for it, I can recommend this Orion XT6:
https://eu.telescope.com/Telescopes/Dob ... goryId=533
Or this GSO one is an even better buy, because this has a higher-quality focuser:
https://www.teleskop-express.de/shop/pr ... uszug.html
Both are f/8 parabolic Newtonians, which will give you very nice sharp images of the Moon and the planets. Plus they have a large aperture of 150mm, which will already enable you to enjoy the views of brighter clusters, nebulae and galaxies. With a set of Super Plossl eyepieces, you will have magnificent views!
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You need to decide based on your own fine muscle skills whether you need an
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This statement is not true and I suspect based more on personal preference.
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Ok, they were also a means of motorised tracking for visual, until the digital era arrived andLady Fraktor wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:01 pm EQ mounts are meant for photography
This statement is not true and I suspect based more on personal preference.
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I sketch and do not want a rotating image, while doing planetary observation/ measurements/ timings I do not want a rotating image, accurately measuring double stars I do not want a rotating image.
For 99% of what I do visually I do not want a rotating image.
I will state that even in manual use I prefer a equatorial to a az/alt mount.
See Far Sticks: Elita 103/1575, AOM FLT 105/1000, Bresser 127/1200 BV, Nočný stopár 152/1200, Vyrobené doma 70/700, Stellarvue NHNG DX 80/552, TAL RS 100/1000, Vixen SD115s/885
EQ: TAL MT-1, Vixen SXP, SXP2, AXJ, AXD
Az/Alt: AYO Digi II, Stellarvue M2C, Argo Navis encoders on both
Tripods: Berlebach Planet (2), Uni 28 Astro, Report 372, TAL factory maple, Vixen ASG-CB90, Vixen AXD-TR102
Diagonals: Astro-Physics, Baader Amici, Baader Herschel, iStar Blue, Stellarvue DX, Tak prism, TAL, Vixen
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Stupid question, I know... anotFritzArgelander wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 6:54 pm
These are good recommendations. Whether or not you want a Dob depends on how much you value the convenience of automatic tracking. I have had excellent results manual tracking the Moon and planets with my Dob Z12. I never found manual tracking a problem doing higher power observations of shadow transits of Jupiter moons, for instance. It takes a excellent balance and a light touch with the hand, in other words practice.
You need to decide based on your own fine muscle skills whether you need an EQ mount or a Dob.
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See Far Sticks: Elita 103/1575, AOM FLT 105/1000, Bresser 127/1200 BV, Nočný stopár 152/1200, Vyrobené doma 70/700, Stellarvue NHNG DX 80/552, TAL RS 100/1000, Vixen SD115s/885
EQ: TAL MT-1, Vixen SXP, SXP2, AXJ, AXD
Az/Alt: AYO Digi II, Stellarvue M2C, Argo Navis encoders on both
Tripods: Berlebach Planet (2), Uni 28 Astro, Report 372, TAL factory maple, Vixen ASG-CB90, Vixen AXD-TR102
Diagonals: Astro-Physics, Baader Amici, Baader Herschel, iStar Blue, Stellarvue DX, Tak prism, TAL, Vixen
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For example the one “we” had selected here and this one:
Orion Telescópio Dobson N 150/750 StarBlast 6
Would give me the same views?
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Using a newtonian on an
There is no real advantage for visual observation to have one over the other.
See Far Sticks: Elita 103/1575, AOM FLT 105/1000, Bresser 127/1200 BV, Nočný stopár 152/1200, Vyrobené doma 70/700, Stellarvue NHNG DX 80/552, TAL RS 100/1000, Vixen SD115s/885
EQ: TAL MT-1, Vixen SXP, SXP2, AXJ, AXD
Az/Alt: AYO Digi II, Stellarvue M2C, Argo Navis encoders on both
Tripods: Berlebach Planet (2), Uni 28 Astro, Report 372, TAL factory maple, Vixen ASG-CB90, Vixen AXD-TR102
Diagonals: Astro-Physics, Baader Amici, Baader Herschel, iStar Blue, Stellarvue DX, Tak prism, TAL, Vixen
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The
This reads a bit silly, but from the available pics I cannot really understand how to use which.
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You can raise the
The
The base plate needs to be reasonably level to operate properly, the legs of an
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EQ: TAL MT-1, Vixen SXP, SXP2, AXJ, AXD
Az/Alt: AYO Digi II, Stellarvue M2C, Argo Navis encoders on both
Tripods: Berlebach Planet (2), Uni 28 Astro, Report 372, TAL factory maple, Vixen ASG-CB90, Vixen AXD-TR102
Diagonals: Astro-Physics, Baader Amici, Baader Herschel, iStar Blue, Stellarvue DX, Tak prism, TAL, Vixen
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https://www.astroshop.pt/telescopios/or ... ob/p,45034
Would it make (more) sense?
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Thereby, I stand corrected! Sketching is something I have indeed not thought about! Great to know that in today'sLady Fraktor wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:36 pm I agree with you up to the ie
I sketch and do not want a rotating image, while doing planetary observation/ measurements/ timings I do not want a rotating image, accurately measuring double stars I do not want a rotating image.
For 99% of what I do visually I do not want a rotating image.
I will state that even in manual use I prefer a equatorial to a az/alt mount.
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That is a good telescope. Make sense has to come from you since your are the one using itmmrmm wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:29 pm For the same price of the Bresser we have been talking about, this one is available!
https://www.astroshop.pt/telescopios/or ... ob/p,45034
Would it make (more) sense?
See Far Sticks: Elita 103/1575, AOM FLT 105/1000, Bresser 127/1200 BV, Nočný stopár 152/1200, Vyrobené doma 70/700, Stellarvue NHNG DX 80/552, TAL RS 100/1000, Vixen SD115s/885
EQ: TAL MT-1, Vixen SXP, SXP2, AXJ, AXD
Az/Alt: AYO Digi II, Stellarvue M2C, Argo Navis encoders on both
Tripods: Berlebach Planet (2), Uni 28 Astro, Report 372, TAL factory maple, Vixen ASG-CB90, Vixen AXD-TR102
Diagonals: Astro-Physics, Baader Amici, Baader Herschel, iStar Blue, Stellarvue DX, Tak prism, TAL, Vixen
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It would, indeed. If you are on a budget, put your money into the optics.mmrmm wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:29 pm For the same price of the Bresser we have been talking about, this one is available!
https://www.astroshop.pt/telescopios/or ... ob/p,45034
Would it make (more) sense?
I see that you can even reach 200mm
https://www.astroshop.pt/telescopios/om ... r_1_select
This seems like a real bargain: 200mm
These Dobs seem to have an unbeatable value for the price!
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https://www.astroshop.pt/telescopios/om ... r_4_select
I must admit it seems like a very good deal at 299€!
Just wonder about the brand, anyone knows it?
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It makes different sense. You get moremmrmm wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:29 pm For the same price of the Bresser we have been talking about, this one is available!
https://www.astroshop.pt/telescopios/or ... ob/p,45034
Would it make (more) sense?
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