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Hi all,
Just to let you know that my 14" binocular telescope is nearing completion after the components have been sitting in my shed for several years.
These were gifted to me by a friend who found that he was developing dementia, and included all the marine ply, optics and the electronics for making it fully go-to. My friend sadly passed away a couple of years back, and I decided to build it in his honour.
I finally got around to it, having retired from my Astronomy Education business, and I have been building it over the last few months. There have been some interesting constraints due to the focussers which my friend supplied, which are helical with only 7mm of travel(!!!), and a range of other issues- especially related to the motor drives, but I have nearly sorted them all out.
I could probably fine-tune it and run it as a push-to dob this weekend, but I don't think the clouds are going to cooperate.
At this stage it looks like I will take it with me to a dark-sky camp next week, so first light might be under Bortle 1 skies. Not much else will fit in my car though: it is big!!!
Below is a piccie of the "skeleton" in my shed this afternoon. Hopefully I can put in all the glass and balance it tomorrow, but I won't be able to collimate it properly until it is under the night sky due to the inability to focus on anything other than at infinity!
If there is interest I will write up the construction as an article when it is up and running.
My next major problem now is where to store it! Assembled it is nearly 2m high, and the rocker and mirror boxes are around 900mm x 500mm (6 1/2 ft high by 3 ft by 1 1/2 ft for you Americans!).

Dean
Bino telescope skeleton.jpg
If you look closely you will see that the mirror box and rocker box are fully dovetailed: I decided to do this all by hand as a practice exercise: good fun in plywood!

A couple more images during construction:
This is before the glue-up for the mirror box. Lots of dovetails!
This is before the glue-up for the mirror box. Lots of dovetails!
The mirror cells have to have multiple degrees of freedom to make sure that not only is each mirror collimated, but they are parallel to each other
The mirror cells have to have multiple degrees of freedom to make sure that not only is each mirror collimated, but they are parallel to each other
The rocker box ends are 34mm plywood, so the dovetails were pretty tricky
The rocker box ends are 34mm plywood, so the dovetails were pretty tricky
Last edited by DeanD on Wed Jul 24, 2024 12:24 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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wow, that’s quite a project, well done Dean.
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are you a carpenter ? that's alot of dove tail,nice and clean :)
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Agree really nice professional work there , not how the manufactures do it now , it would cost a fortune
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Great progress Dean!
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Looks beautiful so far. I can't wait to hear about first light.
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Dovetail joinery... That is impressive
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yobbo89 wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 12:51 pm are you a carpenter ? that's alot of dove tail,nice and clean :)
Thanks for the nice comments folks. I'm just an amateur woodworker: the pros wouldn't waste their time doing hand-cut dovetails- it takes way too long and would cost a fortune. It has been a good exercise in practicing my hand-saw skills, especially vertical cuts to a scribed line.

I probably should have made wider tails, and therefore less cuts (and time); but I think it looks good as is...
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Eyepieces: way too many (is that possible?), but I do like my TV 32mm plossl, 13mm Nagler T6, 27mm Panoptic and 3-6mm Nagler zoom, plus Fujiyama 18mm and 25mm orthos and Tak 7.5mm LE
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DeanD wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 11:35 am Hi all,
Just to let you know that my 14" binocular telescope is nearing completion after the components have been sitting in my shed for several years.
These were gifted to me by a friend who found that he was developing dementia, and included all the marine ply, optics and the electronics for making it fully go-to. My friend sadly passed away a couple of years back, and I decided to build it in his honour.
I finally got around to it, having retired from my Astronomy Education business, and I have been building it over the last few months. There have been some interesting constraints due to the focussers which my friend supplied, which are helical with only 7mm of travel(!!!), and a range of other issues- especially related to the motor drives, but I have nearly sorted them all out.
I could probably fine-tune it and run it as a push-to dob this weekend, but I don't think the clouds are going to cooperate.
At this stage it looks like I will take it with me to a dark-sky camp next week, so first light might be under Bortle 1 skies. Not much else will fit in my car though: it is big!!!
Below is a piccie of the "skeleton" in my shed this afternoon. Hopefully I can put in all the glass and balance it tomorrow, but I won't be able to collimate it properly until it is under the night sky due to the inability to focus on anything other than at infinity!
If there is interest I will write up the construction as an article when it is up and running.
My next major problem now is where to store it! Assembled it is nearly 2m high, and the rocker and mirror boxes are around 900mm x 500mm (6 1/2 ft high by 3 ft by 1 1/2 ft for you Americans!).

Dean

Bino telescope skeleton.jpg

If you look closely you will see that the mirror box and rocker box are fully dovetailed: I decided to do this all by hand as a practice exercise: good fun in plywood!

A couple more images during construction:

Mirror box before glue-up.jpg

Mirror cells.jpg

Dovetailing the rocker box end.jpg
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Nice project.

I'd love to look through, but not own, something like this.




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Holy Moley!!!!

That's amazing!
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A very quick update: I took it to a Bortle 1 site last week. I finished most of the construction during the first day, and was rapt that the focus was fine with very little adjustment. It took a bit of fiddling to get collimation sorted, but I was able to check it with an awesome view of Omega Centauri! The IPD adjustment is primitive at the moment, but it worked OK, and a number of fellow astronomers were able to have a look- so it wasn't just me! ;)

Unfortunately (and predictably) we were clouded out for the rest of the camp, so I haven't quite sorted the motor drive and Argo Navis- but it is looking promising. Nearly done, so watch this space!
Telescopes: 12" f5 dob, Celestron CPC800, 150mmf5 Celestron achro, Tak TSA102, TV76, ETX125...
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Eyepieces: way too many (is that possible?), but I do like my TV 32mm plossl, 13mm Nagler T6, 27mm Panoptic and 3-6mm Nagler zoom, plus Fujiyama 18mm and 25mm orthos and Tak 7.5mm LE
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Just amazing. I built an 8" Dob once with just handtools. But this is incredible workmanship.
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That is one outstanding project, and I applaud your workmanship Dean. I know bino-scopes are a big project, in particular getting the IPD arrangement to work properly. Very well done and I can only image how the views must be!
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Congrats on the first light Dean and you have picked the right target for that! How high in power did you manage to go?
Scopes: Stellarvue: SV102ED; Celestron: 14" & 9.25" EdgeHD, 8" SCT, 150ST, Onyx 80ED; iOptron: Hankmeister 6" Mak; SW: 7" Mak; Meade: 80ST.
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EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Delos, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.
Solar: HA: Lunt 50mm single stack, W/L: Meade Herschel wedge.

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Congratulations Dean,

Looks great. If I wasn't teaching an astrophotography course at the moment, I'd drive over and provide logistical support for you.

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Bigzmey wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 7:07 pm Congrats on the first light Dean and you have picked the right target for that! How high in power did you manage to go?
I was just using 26mm eyepieces for the first view, so around 67x. I have got two 18mm radians to try, so that will give me 97x... :)
Telescopes: 12" f5 dob, Celestron CPC800, 150mmf5 Celestron achro, Tak TSA102, TV76, ETX125...
Binos: Steiner Wildlife XP 10x26, Swarovski 8x30 Habicht, Zeiss SFL 8x40, Vanguard Endeavour 10.5x45, Fuji FMTR-SX 10x50, Tak 22x60, Orion Resolux 15x70
Eyepieces: way too many (is that possible?), but I do like my TV 32mm plossl, 13mm Nagler T6, 27mm Panoptic and 3-6mm Nagler zoom, plus Fujiyama 18mm and 25mm orthos and Tak 7.5mm LE
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