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Hi there every body, hope your all fine and well, I am hoping to start a duel rig setup for my C11 Edge HD and New Askar 130PHQ, can any one point me in the right direction where I can get a side by side mounting plate/saddle for my CEM120 where one side is adjustable for fine alignment ?

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ADM Accessories is always a great place to browse for Plates and Mounting Hardware.
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Plus one for ADM. Incredible quality.
https://www.admaccessories.com/product/ ... de-system/
You will need one of these. One side stays fixed, then you place the aiming device on one side to align with the fixed scope.
https://www.admaccessories.com/product/ ... l-version/
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Ditto everything Greg just said.

I got this setup from ADM
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I also agree with the ADM recommendation.

I also have the ADM Dual side by side with the dual Vixen/Losmandy clamps.
Very solid and a very flexible setup for various instrument configurations.
I use a Vixen cassegrain astrograph and a stellarvue 102ED refractors and various straight camera lenses.

I also have some of the cheaper Losmandy D plates which I use for camera lenses only. They are much lighter construction, fine for DSLR lenses but I'm not sure about a C11 Edge or big frac.

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I have found the Primaluce saddles and dovetail bars to be of outstanding quality, and the saddles have 2 fastening plates instead of just 1 as on the ADM variants, also better / more holes for fastening..
Scopes: Meade 8" LX90 (deforked), Skywatcher Esprit 100, Skywatcher Evoguide 50ED, Askar FMA180 Pro.
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AstroShed wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 7:13 am I have found the Primaluce saddles and dovetail bars to be of outstanding quality, and the saddles have 2 fastening plates instead of just 1 as on the ADM variants, also better / more holes for fastening..
I really like the quality of the PrimaluceLabs plates, but unfortunately their side-by-side plates are both fixed. In order to do an alignment with the secondary scope you have to resort to using shims and guesswork.
With the ADM side-by-side setup with an aiming device on one side, it's super easy to configure the rig so that both scopes are centered exactly on the same point.

I'm not sure what you are talking about when you mention 2 fastening plates? Are you talking about the saddle sizes either Vixen or Losmandy style? Because with the ADM gear if you go with the D-series plates, they also have the vixen slot as well.
https://www.admaccessories.com/product/ ... de-system/
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i tried a 10'' newt and a 127mm refractor aswell as a 12'' trusstube with a losmandy 14'' plate and two of these simular clamps

https://www.amazon.com.au/Astromania-15 ... B07JHGC51K

https://www.bintel.com.au/product/losma ... sal-dup14/

the rig had too much flexure,limited to shorter subs , my losmandy plate has a nice 2mm curve in it now they are only made from aluminum .. really something in that simular setup with such weight needs something a little custom,thicker plate or stainless , the closer you can mount each scope next to each other the better it is.

on one of my current rigs which is a single scope (12'' f4) (havn't got an image of it to show) , it has a losmandy plate and another 10mm plate stacked, the scope is bolted through both plates,this made the setup really stiff,just an idea if you need to make something more rigid .
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Spec says it's 35mm thick! Should be a good option for side by side setup with minimal flexure

https://www.optics-pro.com/mounting-pla ... te/p,20350
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AstroBee wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 4:26 pm
AstroShed wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 7:13 am I have found the Primaluce saddles and dovetail bars to be of outstanding quality, and the saddles have 2 fastening plates instead of just 1 as on the ADM variants, also better / more holes for fastening..
I really like the quality of the PrimaluceLabs plates, but unfortunately their side-by-side plates are both fixed. In order to do an alignment with the secondary scope you have to resort to using shims and guesswork.
With the ADM side-by-side setup with an aiming device on one side, it's super easy to configure the rig so that both scopes are centered exactly on the same point.

I'm not sure what you are talking about when you mention 2 fastening plates? Are you talking about the saddle sizes either Vixen or Losmandy style? Because with the ADM gear if you go with the D-series plates, they also have the vixen slot as well.
https://www.admaccessories.com/product/ ... de-system/
What I meant by the two clamps I did not explain very well,
There are two fastening knobs which fasted two clamps onto the rail that is fitted, whereas the ADM just have the one clamp which is the full length of the saddle…
Hope that makes more sense, it does to me 😂
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Scopes: Meade 8" LX90 (deforked), Skywatcher Esprit 100, Skywatcher Evoguide 50ED, Askar FMA180 Pro.
Mount: Ioptron CEM70G on an Astro Engineering Steel Pier.
Cameras: QHY268c, QHY268m, ASI178mm.
Filters: Optolong L-Pro 2” Optolong UV/IR 2”, Optolong 3nm 36mm Ha, OIII, SII + Optolong 36mm LRGB, Askar C1 & C2, Svbony 220 Dual Narrowband.
Accessories: Televue 2.5x Powermate, ASA f7.5 SCT FF/FR, Esprit 100 flattener, QHYCW3 36mm filter wheel, Pegasus Ultimate Power Box V2 with Motor focuser, Deep Sky Dad Motorised Flats Panel.
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AstroShed wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 9:38 pm
AstroBee wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 4:26 pm
AstroShed wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 7:13 am I have found the Primaluce saddles and dovetail bars to be of outstanding quality, and the saddles have 2 fastening plates instead of just 1 as on the ADM variants, also better / more holes for fastening..
I really like the quality of the PrimaluceLabs plates, but unfortunately their side-by-side plates are both fixed. In order to do an alignment with the secondary scope you have to resort to using shims and guesswork.
With the ADM side-by-side setup with an aiming device on one side, it's super easy to configure the rig so that both scopes are centered exactly on the same point.

I'm not sure what you are talking about when you mention 2 fastening plates? Are you talking about the saddle sizes either Vixen or Losmandy style? Because with the ADM gear if you go with the D-series plates, they also have the vixen slot as well.
https://www.admaccessories.com/product/ ... de-system/
What I meant by the two clamps I did not explain very well,
There are two fastening knobs which fasted two clamps onto the rail that is fitted, whereas the ADM just have the one clamp which is the full length of the saddle…
Hope that makes more sense, it does to me 😂

IMG_2862.jpeg
Ahh, I see what you are talking about now. Though I'm not sure what the advantage of that is over a solid longer rail that has a front and rear clamp.
The ADM aiming device is split with two separate clamping sections.
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Scopes: Celestron EdgeHD14", Explore Scientific ED152CF & ED127 APO's, StellarVue SV70T, Classic Orange-Tube C-8, Lunt 80mm Ha double-stack solar scope.
Mounts: Astro-Physics Mach One, iOptron CEM70EC Mount, iOptron ZEQ25 Mount.
Cameras: ZWO ASI2600mm Pro, ZWO 2600MC Pro, ZWO ASI1600mm
Filters: 36mm Chroma LRGB & 3nm Ha, OIII, SII, L-Pro, L-eXtreme
Eyepieces: 27mm TeleVue Panoptic, 4mm TeleVue Radian, Explore Scientific 82° 30mm, 6.7mm , Baader 13mm Hyperion, Explore Scientific 70° 10mm, 15mm, 20mm, Meade 8.8mm UWA
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