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Hi all,
I am a begginer as well. Im looking to buy a telescope, my budget is €200-300. Interested in planets, nebulas, deepsky objects,astrophotography. I was looking at this telescope, so i would be more then pleased if you tell me your opinion, and suggest models. This is the model ive been looking at, tho open for more suggestions ,Thanks.
Sky-Watcher Explorer-130PDS (OTA) telescope.
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Hello Alek, the telescope you asked about is a good one.
The only issue is that you would require a mount for it which would increase the required budget considerably.
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Hi Alek and welcome to TSS!

It is great to have you here. Looking forward to hearing about your adventures.
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So which other options can i consider ? What should i look for?
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What about these three:
Celestron telescope N 127/1000 StarSense Explorer LT 127 AZ
BRESSER Solarix AZ 114/500 Carbon Design Telescopic Starter Set
BRESSER Messier AR-90/900 NANO AZ telescope
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The telescope you referenced in your first post is the tube only. It needs a mount upon which to connect it so that the optical tube can move around the sky.

Here is a quick read on all the different telescope mounts and will help you decide which mount is best suited for what you want that telescope to do.

https://cosmicpursuits.com/1100/telescope-mounts/

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AlekN wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:15 pm What about these three:
Celestron telescope N 127/1000 StarSense Explorer LT 127 AZ
BRESSER Solarix AZ 114/500 Carbon Design Telescopic Starter Set
BRESSER Messier AR-90/900 NANO AZ telescope
When you give us model numbers for gear, it would be nice if there was also a link to where you found it so we can do better research for you.
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If you are not opposed to using a mount that will need to be set up on a table or other platform, this telescope has good reviews and is a larger aperture at 130mm than the other 3 scopes and at F/5 (650mm focal length) can show you some of the brighter deep sky objects such as star clusters, nebulae, moon and planets. Read the reviews on it and what's included with the telescope to help you decide.
https://www.astroshop.de/teleskope/skyw ... ob/p,14966
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Thanks a lot, i dont want to be bothering a lot 😀😀. Last thing, ill send a link for a last telescope im looking at , just need your opinion. It says it comes with EQ mount, tho also i was reading somewhere that barlow lenses are not good. And one more question, do i need mount for any kind of telescope or? Thabks a lot guys.
https://www.amazon.nl/dp/B00CYHSZ90?ref ... uage=en-GB
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Welcome to TSS Alek, thanks for joining us :)

You are certainly not bothering us with scope questions :)

I would avoid a Newtonian on an EQ, they put the eyepiece in awkward places. Newts really shine as a Dobson.
Also, entry level EQ's aren't made very well.

The 90mm refractor on the alt-az looks decent, also check out Dobsons, they are also simple alt-AZ.

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AlekN wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2023 10:21 pm tho also i was reading somewhere that barlow lenses are not good.

And one more question, do i need mount for any kind of telescope or?
Bad info, Good barlows are good, bad barlows are bad like anything else, quality matters. I have many.

Absolutely!!! The mount IS the most important part of any telescope. It stabilizes the inherent wobble, the sky moves and you must keep moving the telescope to keep up, you need smooth motions or motor drive, any old tripod you have lying about will not work. Just imagine holding and viewing thru a pair of binoculars, but up the magnification to 50X from 7X, impossible to see anything.

My choice for visual viewing is a Dobson type telescope, the design is inherently stable and you get more aperture for the price (BTW gathering light is the most important part of a scope). Don't spend the money too quickly, like me and about everybody else in this hobby, you will probably regret your first purchase. Read all the FYI articles you can find, then hopefully make an informed purchase.

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You are getting plenty of good advices already so I just say welcome to TSS!
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Thanks everyone, i really appreciate it. Whats left now is to gather all the info and make a choice and fun times can begin. Thanks
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Hi all,
Down to three choices, can you help me pick one, or of you think none of them are ok🤣🤣🤣

1.https://www.bresser.de/Astronomie/BRESS ... 15b88e0c26

2.https://www.bresser.de/Astronomie/Zubeh ... 7REALw_wcB

3.https://www.kamera-express.de/bresser-p ... xiEALw_wcB

Thanks
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Hello Alek,
To start with I would not really start with the 102 f/4.5 refractor to start. One that would be better after you get more viewing experience.

Will you be viewing from the garden or a balcony? I would really recommend the following newtonian to start out.
This will allow you to do your stated objectives and show you different objects for a very long time.

https://www.bresser.de/Astronomie/Teles ... eskop.html
See Far Sticks: Antares Elita 103/1575, AOM FLT 105/1000, Bresser BV 127/1200, Nočný stopár 152/1200, Vyrobené doma 70/700, Stellarvue NHNG DX 80/552, TAL RS100/1000, Vixen SD115s/885
EQ: TAL MT-1, Vixen SXP, AXJ, AXD
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AlekN wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 7:27 pm Hi all,
Down to three choices, can you help me pick one, or of you think none of them are ok🤣🤣🤣

1.https://www.bresser.de/Astronomie/BRESS ... 15b88e0c26

2.https://www.bresser.de/Astronomie/Zubeh ... 7REALw_wcB

3.https://www.kamera-express.de/bresser-p ... xiEALw_wcB

Thanks
Second option is mount only, no telescope included. I would go with option #3.

#1 has larger aperture, but if you take in to account the central obstruction the light gathering power of 130mm reflector is about the same as of 102mm refractor. Since the 130mm reflector is larger and heavier than 102mm refractor you will have less vibrations and more enjoyable observing.
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Lady Fraktor wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 7:49 pm Hello Alek,
To start with I would not really start with the 102 f/4.5 refractor to start. One that would be better after you get more viewing experience.

Will you be viewing from the garden or a balcony? I would really recommend the following newtonian to start out.
This will allow you to do your stated objectives and show you different objects for a very long time.

https://www.bresser.de/Astronomie/Teles ... eskop.html
Alek, this 6" DOB is a great beginner scope. A bit more expensive than the other two options you have considered but better scope all around.
Scopes: Stellarvue: SV102ED; Celestron: 9.25" EdgeHD, 8" SCT, 150ST, Onyx 80ED; iOptron: Hankmeister 6" Mak; SW: 7" Mak; Meade: 80ST.
Mounts: SW: SkyTee2, AzGTi; iOptron: AZMP; ES: Twilight I; Bresser: EXOS2; UA: MicroStar.
Binos: APM: 100-90 APO; Canon: IS 15x50; Orion: Binoviewer, LG II 15x70, WV 10x50, Nikon: AE 16x50 & 8x40.
EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV; Meade: UWA, Plossls.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.

Observing: DSOs: 3106 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2180, S110: 77). Doubles: 2339, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 245
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First off welcome to astronomy. If you have clear skies its a great hobby. If you have cloudy skies its a terrible hobby lol.

I am going to come at this from a different direction and say STOP. Don't spend a dime on anything. Find a club somewhere, even if you have to drive a couple hours. This is where the real research starts. Dont buy anything until you can actually put your hands on various scopes looking at different kinds of objects. Then you will be able to narrow down what scope you really need. While we are more then willing to help you spend your money we will basically tell you what we would get if we were starting over based on our experiences in our skies. Not that there is anything wrong with that but really only you can determine the kind of scope you need to fulfill what you want to do and the only way to do that is to get some hands on experience
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