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These eyepieces popped up in a thread on another forum and we are looking for anyone who may have given them a try.
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I have not tried them but these have been around since 2017 and since there are few reviews I would suspect they are not that good.
The 45 mm is pointless unless you are using a telescope with at least a f/7 and slower telescope.
Sky At Night has done a review of them from 2018. Typical reviews tend not to say anything bad about products just emphasizing the good points.
According to their review these are definitely not orthoscopic as they all show colour.
The only retailer I can think of is Altair Astro but looking at the numbers and reading the review I would not spend my money.
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If anyone looking for good orthoscopic EPs, I would recommend Baader classic orthos. I even have two sets because they are great for binoviewers to.

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Scopes: Stellarvue: SV102ED; Celestron: 9.25" EdgeHD, 8" SCT, 150ST, Onyx 80ED; iOptron: Hankmeister 6" Mak; SW: 7" Mak; Meade: 80ST.
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EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.
Solar: HA: Lunt 50mm single stack, W/L: Meade Herschel wedge.

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I have Daystars version of the 25mm, its a 62° ortho and rocks the solar views very very well and is very sharp and crisp view.

The others I have heard are also decent but have no further experience with.
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If looking for eyepieces for shorter focal length telescopes I imagine a good Plossl will outperform these and be much cheaper.

Baader Classic Orthoscopics are good but if you can find the Baader Genuine Orthoscopics they are a better eyepiece. :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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EQ: TAL MT-1, Vixen SXP, SXP2, AXJ, AXD
Az/Alt: AYO Digi II, Stellarvue M2C, Argo Navis encoders on both
Tripods: Berlebach Planet (2), Uni 28 Astro, Report 372, TAL factory maple, Vixen ASG-CB90, Vixen AXD-TR102
Diagonals: Astro-Physics, Baader Amici, Baader Herschel, iStar Blue, Stellarvue DX, Tak prism, TAL, Vixen
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StarHugger wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2023 5:44 pm I have Daystars version of the 25mm, its a 62° ortho and rocks the solar views very very well and is very sharp and crisp view.

The others I have heard are also decent but have no further experience with.
Doing narrowband is quite different than general observing though.
From the review they say each shows colour and edge distortion which means they are definitely not orthoscopic.

Some of the best eyepieces I have found for solar observing are the Vixen LV (discontinued) and they can be found used for a reasonable price.
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See Far Sticks: Elita 103/1575, AOM FLT 105/1000, Bresser 127/1200 BV, Nočný stopár 152/1200, Vyrobené doma 70/700, Stellarvue NHNG DX 80/552, TAL RS 100/1000, Vixen SD115s/885
EQ: TAL MT-1, Vixen SXP, SXP2, AXJ, AXD
Az/Alt: AYO Digi II, Stellarvue M2C, Argo Navis encoders on both
Tripods: Berlebach Planet (2), Uni 28 Astro, Report 372, TAL factory maple, Vixen ASG-CB90, Vixen AXD-TR102
Diagonals: Astro-Physics, Baader Amici, Baader Herschel, iStar Blue, Stellarvue DX, Tak prism, TAL, Vixen
Eyepieces: Antares to Zeiss (1011110)
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Lady Fraktor wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2023 5:50 pm If looking for eyepieces for shorter focal length telescopes I imagine a good Plossl will outperform these and be much cheaper.

Baader Classic Orthoscopics are good but if you can find the Baader Genuine Orthoscopics they are a better eyepiece. :handgestures-thumbupleft:
Brief search on CN classifieds shows that last time a BGO came for sale was in 2020, so I would not hold my breath for those. :D
Scopes: Stellarvue: SV102ED; Celestron: 9.25" EdgeHD, 8" SCT, 150ST, Onyx 80ED; iOptron: Hankmeister 6" Mak; SW: 7" Mak; Meade: 80ST.
Mounts: SW: SkyTee2, AzGTi; iOptron: AZMP; ES: Twilight I; Bresser: EXOS2; UA: MicroStar.
Binos: APM: 100-90 APO; Canon: IS 15x50; Orion: Binoviewer, LG II 15x70, WV 10x50, Nikon: AE 16x50, 10x50, 8x40.
EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.
Solar: HA: Lunt 50mm single stack, W/L: Meade Herschel wedge.

Observing: DSOs: 3106 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2180, S110: 77). Doubles: 2437, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 257
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If you wait they will appear eventually ;)
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See Far Sticks: Elita 103/1575, AOM FLT 105/1000, Bresser 127/1200 BV, Nočný stopár 152/1200, Vyrobené doma 70/700, Stellarvue NHNG DX 80/552, TAL RS 100/1000, Vixen SD115s/885
EQ: TAL MT-1, Vixen SXP, SXP2, AXJ, AXD
Az/Alt: AYO Digi II, Stellarvue M2C, Argo Navis encoders on both
Tripods: Berlebach Planet (2), Uni 28 Astro, Report 372, TAL factory maple, Vixen ASG-CB90, Vixen AXD-TR102
Diagonals: Astro-Physics, Baader Amici, Baader Herschel, iStar Blue, Stellarvue DX, Tak prism, TAL, Vixen
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Re: Anybody tried these

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Lady Fraktor wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2023 6:13 pm
StarHugger wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2023 5:44 pm I have Daystars version of the 25mm, its a 62° ortho and rocks the solar views very very well and is very sharp and crisp view.

The others I have heard are also decent but have no further experience with.
Doing narrowband is quite different than general observing though.
From the review they say each shows colour and edge distortion which means they are definitely not orthoscopic.

Some of the best eyepieces I have found for solar observing are the Vixen LV (discontinued) and they can be found used for a reasonable price.

They are designed as widefield orthoscopics so up to the standard degree fov of orthos they perform just as well as my standard baader orthos I see no difference.

I use all my orthos primarily for visual but also do eyepiece projection with them in both multiband and narrowband typically in my quark cromosphere and sodium and also love them for viewing and imaging the moon.


The 25mm that I have shows zero colour or edge distortion in my scopes, been using othos for 30 years and I do say with all my skill this one rocks beyond whats needed indeed!

As I said I dont know about the others in the set.


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Lady Fraktor wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2023 5:22 pm I have not tried them but these have been around since 2017 and since there are few reviews I would suspect they are not that good.
The 45 mm is pointless unless you are using a telescope with at least a f/7 and slower telescope.
Sky At Night has done a review of them from 2018. Typical reviews tend not to say anything bad about products just emphasizing the good points.
According to their review these are definitely not orthoscopic as they all show colour.
The only retailer I can think of is Altair Astro but looking at the numbers and reading the review I would not spend my money.
https://www.skyatnightmagazine.com/revi ... -eyepieces
Thanks, that is exactly what we have been looking for
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