New to C8 Astrophotography

We all started somewhere! We are a friendly bunch! Most of your questions can be posted here, but if you are interested in Astrophotography please use the new Beginner Astrophotography forum. The response time will be much better.
Post Reply
Jaspreet164 United States of America
Earth Ambassador
Articles: 0
Offline
Posts: 1
Joined: Sun Jun 04, 2023 8:20 am
Location: SACRAMENTO, USA
Status:
Offline

New to C8 Astrophotography

#1

Post by Jaspreet164 »


Good day everyone. I have been in this hobby for about three years now. Recently upgraded to Celestron C8 XLT telescope. Really for galaxy imaging only. With .63 reducer I'm struggling to achieve proper back focus. Image train consist of 50mm Celestron adaptor 16.5 spacer and 21mm filter wheel attached directly to ZWO ASI294MM camera. Any help with solving this issue will be appreciated.
User avatar
Graeme1858 Great Britain
Co-Administrator
Co-Administrator
Articles: 1
Online
Posts: 7364
Joined: Mon Jun 24, 2019 7:16 pm
4
Location: North Kent, UK
Status:
Online

TSS Awards Badges

TSS Photo of the Day

I Broke The Forum.

Re: New to C8 Astrophotography

#2

Post by Graeme1858 »


Jaspreet164 wrote: Sun Jun 04, 2023 8:29 am Good day everyone. I have been in this hobby for about three years now. Recently upgraded to Celestron C8 XLT telescope. Really for galaxy imaging only. With .63 reducer I'm struggling to achieve proper back focus. Image train consist of 50mm Celestron adaptor 16.5 spacer and 21mm filter wheel attached directly to ZWO ASI294MM camera. Any help with solving this issue will be appreciated.

Hello Jaspreet

You have probably seen this diagram. It's from the Zwo website for your camera. You need to have 55mm from the back of the focal reducer to your camera sensor. That includes your filter wheel.

Screenshot 2023-06-04 094009.png


Welcome to the forum.

Regards

Graeme
______________________________________________
Celestron 9.25 f10 SCT, f6.3FR, CGX mount.
ASI1600MM Pro, ASI294MC Pro, ASI224MC
ZWO EFW, ZWO OAG, ASI220MM Mini.
APM 11x70 ED APO Binoculars.

https://www.averywayobservatory.co.uk/
User avatar
JayTee United States of America
Universal Ambassador
Articles: 2
Offline
Posts: 5635
Joined: Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:23 am
4
Location: Idaho, USA
Status:
Offline

TSS Awards Badges

TSS Photo of the Day

Re: New to C8 Astrophotography

#3

Post by JayTee »


Put another way, you need 105mm of spacing between your .63 corrector and your camera sensor.

Hope that helps.
∞ Primary Scopes: #1: Celestron CPC1100 #2: 8" f/7.5 Dob #3: CR150HD f/8 6" frac
∞ AP Scopes: #1: TPO 6" f/9 RC #2: ES 102 f/7 APO #3: ES 80mm f/6 APO
∞ G&G Scopes: #1: Meade 102mm f/7.8 #2: Bresser 102mm f/4.5
∞ Guide Scopes: 70 & 80mm fracs -- The El Cheapo Bros.
∞ Mounts: iOptron CEM70AG, SW EQ6, Celestron AVX, SLT & GT (Alt-Az), Meade DS2000
∞ Cameras: #1: ZWO ASI294MC Pro #2: 662MC #3: 120MC, Canon T3i, Orion SSAG, WYZE Cam3
∞ Binos: 10X50,11X70,15X70, 25X100
∞ EPs: ES 2": 21mm 100° & 30mm 82° Pentax XW: 7, 10, 14, & 20mm 70°

Searching the skies since 1966. "I never met a scope I didn't want to keep."

Image
User avatar
AstroBee United States of America
Moderator
Moderator
Articles: 0
Offline
Posts: 2251
Joined: Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:03 pm
4
Location: Henderson, NV
Status:
Offline

TSS Awards Badges

TSS Photo of the Day

Re: New to C8 Astrophotography

#4

Post by AstroBee »


As JT mentioned. The backspacing for the Celestron .63 reducer is 105mm.
Remember, the necessary backfocus is reducer dependant, not camera, so different reducers have different distances. The most common distance is 55mm but that varies. I have a 1.0x TS optics flattener that actually varies depending on the focal length of the telescope from 60mm for a 300mm fl telescope up to 108mm for my scope that is 1220mm fl.

You mentioned the filter wheel is attached "directly" to the camera. Is that with or without the 11mm ring as shown in the photo above by Graeme? I'm not familiar with the 294 so I don't know if the filter wheel can be directly bolted to the camera without that 11mm ring. Either way, with the 11mm ring you have 17.5mm to start with and without the 11mm ring you have 6.5mm to start with.
Fortunately, or unfortunately, depending on how you look at it, even with the reducer you are shooting at f6.3 so your backfocus distance is not as critical as if you were shooting at F2 on a RASA. If you can get within +-2mm you will probably be fine.
You will want to get between 103-107mm to start with. Then take an image and look at the corner stars. If the edge stars appear to be radiating outward like you are going into warp speed then your sensor is too close to the correcter and you need to add a bit of space. If the stars appear to be wrapping around the edge of the frame then you are too far from the corrector and you need to remove space. See this image for the best example of the effect I'm talking about.
Image
3D printers are great for making tiny spacers because the retailers charge a ridiculous amount of money for a sliver of plastic!
Greg M.~ "Ad Astra per Aspera"
Scopes: Celestron EdgeHD14", Explore Scientific ED152CF & ED127 APO's, StellarVue SV70T, Classic Orange-Tube C-8, Lunt 80mm Ha double-stack solar scope.
Mounts: Astro-Physics Mach One, iOptron CEM70EC Mount, iOptron ZEQ25 Mount.
Cameras: ZWO ASI2600mm Pro, ZWO 2600MC Pro, ZWO ASI1600mm
Filters: 36mm Chroma LRGB & 3nm Ha, OIII, SII, L-Pro, L-eXtreme
Eyepieces: 27mm TeleVue Panoptic, 4mm TeleVue Radian, Explore Scientific 82° 30mm, 6.7mm , Baader 13mm Hyperion, Explore Scientific 70° 10mm, 15mm, 20mm, Meade 8.8mm UWA
Software: N.I.N.A., SharpCapPro, PixInsight, PhotoShop CC, Phd2, Stellarium
https://www.nevadadesertskies.com
User avatar
Graeme1858 Great Britain
Co-Administrator
Co-Administrator
Articles: 1
Online
Posts: 7364
Joined: Mon Jun 24, 2019 7:16 pm
4
Location: North Kent, UK
Status:
Online

TSS Awards Badges

TSS Photo of the Day

I Broke The Forum.

Re: New to C8 Astrophotography

#5

Post by Graeme1858 »


Jaspreet164 wrote: Sun Jun 04, 2023 8:29 am Image train consist of 50mm Celestron adaptor 16.5 spacer and 21mm filter wheel attached directly to ZWO ASI294MM camera.

So if your filter wheel is connected to the camera using the 11mm ring, you have the correct 105mm back focus. If your filter wheel is connected to your camera body directly, you will be 11mm short.
______________________________________________
Celestron 9.25 f10 SCT, f6.3FR, CGX mount.
ASI1600MM Pro, ASI294MC Pro, ASI224MC
ZWO EFW, ZWO OAG, ASI220MM Mini.
APM 11x70 ED APO Binoculars.

https://www.averywayobservatory.co.uk/
Post Reply

Create an account or sign in to join the discussion

You need to be a member in order to post a reply

Create an account

Not a member? register to join our community
Members can start their own topics & subscribe to topics
It’s free and only takes a minute

Register

Sign in

Return to “Beginners forum”