A little pre-dawn Messier

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A little pre-dawn Messier

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Took out the ST120 about 0300 today. A cold front moved through last night and skies were nicely transparent. Spent a fair amount of time on M42 trying different EPs with / without my nebular filter. Trapezium looked good. The 120 definitely can't handle a 3.8mm EP - went to complete mush - as I expected. Not sure if I've ever seen M43 from home. I think it was visible today, but maybe that was only b/c I know it's there. :lol:

Slewed over to M35, then M38. M38 is often a challenge from home, but it was nicely visible today.

M36, then M37, then over to the Beehive (M44). I've admired the Hive, but haven't spent much time studying it in detail. Decided to play around with SkySafari a bit and take better notes on what I observed. Epsilon, 38, 39, and 40 were all easy as was the triangle at 1 o'clock position from Epsilon, but the little fella in green was the faintest I could make out. Have to check the magnitude on that just to see what I could see. Cheers!
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Re: A little pre-dawn Messier

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Nice session. yep, it's nice to see Orion again around 4am. Another month and it will be sufficiently in position to give it a go for the Horsehead. :p

Your seeing may not have been sufficiently good enough to handle it that night. I've used a 4mm EP quite a few times with the 120ST and it's been OK (a little soft perhaps). If it was particularly transparent it's likely the "seeing" conditions were actually bad.
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Re: A little pre-dawn Messier

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Nice morning session Olen!

As Dave says your seeing was likely not good for 156x. On a good night 120ST can definitely handle ~200x, on doubles for sure.

What model is your 3.8mm EP?
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Re: A little pre-dawn Messier

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Well done Olen. Must of been a tad soft on the seeing. I had an ST120 several years ago, and at f/5. trying to push it toward 200x was problematic unless the seeing was reasonably stable. I liked it and used it as a travel scope about 10 years ago. I had some stunning views of NGC 5139 (Omega Centauri) and other southern treats while traveling farther south.
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Re: A little pre-dawn Messier

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Very nice session Olen! I plan to do some more random pre-dawn deep-sky observing myself, this time with a scope mounted on my GOTO.
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Re: A little pre-dawn Messier

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Bigzmey wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:07 pm What model is your 3.8mm EP?
Agena Astro / Starguider / BST / probably other names.
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