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Celestron EQ127

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I have the chance to buy a used Celeste Freon 127 EQ the persons asking $125 wondering if it’s worth it providing all is right with it I see it retails for twice that much?
Wondering if anyone can give me any insight if they’ve owned one of these thanks in advance frank
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Re: Celestron EQ127

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This is another of Celestron Bird-Jones telescopes, please avoid!
To keep it easy, if it is Celestron reflector and is under 130mm just say no.
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Re: Celestron EQ127

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Lady Fraktor wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:37 pm This is another of Celestron Bird-Jones telescopes, please avoid!
To keep it easy, if it is Celestron reflector and is under 130mm just say no.
Thank you that’s all I had to hear appreciate your input!
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For folks looking for a small reflector in this size range, I usually recommend the AWB OneSky. Yes, it's a tad bit more expensive but portions of the proceeds go to a great cause and the scope is absolutely fantastic for its size. They don't get much easier to learn and use than this. Those rickety eq mounts are a nightmare to deal with.
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Re: Celestron EQ127

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Frank, you already got two reflectors, what you need is a nice good refractor. :D
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Bigzmey wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 6:53 pm Frank, you already got two reflectors, what you need is a nice good refractor. :D
You are correct my friend!😂
I thought it might be a good deal listed in my local club but I was informed as you can see to not bother.
You are also correct that I don’t have a refractor but I haven't been exposed to or convinced about their virtues .
Just out of Curiosity what would be a good middle of the road refractory to start out with?
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AstroBee wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 6:37 pm For folks looking for a small reflector in this size range, I usually recommend the AWB OneSky. Yes, it's a tad bit more expensive but portions of the proceeds go to a great cause and the scope is absolutely fantastic for its size. They don't get much easier to learn and use than this. Those rickety eq mounts are a nightmare to deal with.
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Whoa way cool for the money and the cause thanks for the tip my friend !
BTW I watched the whole video that is a fantastic grab and go scope which is what I had in mind thanks!
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Frankskywatcher wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:24 pm
Bigzmey wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 6:53 pm Frank, you already got two reflectors, what you need is a nice good refractor. :D
You are correct my friend!😂
I thought it might be a good deal listed in my local club but I was informed as you can see to not bother.
You are also correct that I don’t have a refractor but I haven't been exposed to or convinced about their virtues .
Just out of Curiosity what would be a good middle of the road refractory to start out with?
Well, you got a 10" light bucket. This is a serious DSO hunter, but as you already know takes time and effort to deploy an operate. You also got smaller newt which is easier to move but still somewhat awkward to operate with EQ mount, collimation, etc.

What is missing is lightweight grab and go setup, ready on a moment notice, no maintenance, and very easy and intuitive in operation. That would be 80-100mm refractor on AltAz mount. The exact configuration would depend on your budget.
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Re: Celestron EQ127

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A grab and go is always handy.
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I'd say either an 80-100mm refractor or the onesky. I actually have one and it is my grab n go.
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helicon wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:23 pm I'd say either an 80-100mm refractor or the onesky. I actually have one and it is my grab n go.
Thanks for the input I really like the whole idea behind the one sky scope!
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Frankskywatcher wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:38 pm
helicon wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:23 pm I'd say either an 80-100mm refractor or the onesky. I actually have one and it is my grab n go.
Thanks for the input I really like the whole idea behind the one sky scope!
On 2nd thought you have two reflectors so get a refractor. Easy to use and don't need collimation
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Frankskywatcher wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:38 pm
helicon wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:23 pm I'd say either an 80-100mm refractor or the onesky. I actually have one and it is my grab n go.
Thanks for the input I really like the whole idea behind the one sky scope!
I have two refractors, I started with an EvoStsar ED80. Then I added a WO Z73 for full frame and a bigger FOV. I have an 8" SCT I recently got but haven't had the chance to really work with it yet. I am thinking another refractor because they are so simple to setup and use, probably a 120mm, that would fill the hole in my focal lengths.

I'm a refractor fan as you can see! :Astronomer1:

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Re: Celestron EQ127

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I had many BJ scopes (well I believe they are not real BJ scopes but rather bad imitations) and out of 10 one was just ok, but that was some years back and I would get them for like 30-50 dollars , Scope prices have gone thru the roof so around 100 us is probably the most , I see all your scopes are Alt/Az , so if you want it to try an EQ mount perhaps yes but the actual scope and mount are bad and to make things worse much harder to collimate than your Dobs
I never had the Celestron 127 , but had a copy of it , bad focuser and unfortunately one cant upgrade it , and the mount is too wobbly so will put you off a quality EQ mount
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My brother had one which I had occasion to use. My general rule is if I'm heading off a potential buyer I'd say to not go there, especially at that price, used. Unfortunately alot of people asking about them have already bought one, in which case I try to help out best I can from my experience with it. Truth is the 127eq only does one thing well, and that's offer alot of aperture for the cost. The mount is not great but it can be made useable, and its going to make you really appreciate a better one when you get it. The images are never going to be great but they can be sufficient to spark an interest and later move onto something better.

My first scope was a used Spaceprobe 130ST and we got to line them up side by side one night and do a direct comparison. The difference in quality was very obvious.
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