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8/6/22

Location: Anza desert site, Bortle 3.0.
Equipment: Celestron 9.25” Edge HD SCT on SW SkyTee 2 manual AltAz mount.

EPs:
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Pentax XW 14mm 70 deg (168x, 1.4mm exit pupil, 0.42 deg TFV)
Pentax XW 20mm, 70 deg (118x, 2.0 mm exit pupil, 0.6 deg TFV)
TV Panoptic 27mm, 68 deg (87x, 2.7 mm exit pupil, 0.8 deg TFV)

For a few weeks we are having monsoon weather with high clouds and showers in the desert. Last weekend was no go, but this weekend I have managed an early morning session. Upon arrival to the Anza site, I have discovered chaparral in bloom! This is one of my favorite times of the year. For miles the trees are covered in small white flowers. The desert is buzzing with bees.
chaporal bloom 2022-A.jpg
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To capitalize on dark time, I have slept for a few hours and woke up at midnight to watch orange Moon setting to the mountains. After that I proceeded with hunting galaxies in Andromeda. After moonset, the sky got dark. Milky Way was detailed but somewhat subdued. As I discovered the transparency was not the best, likely due to the moisture in the air, and I had to work harder to resolve all those faint fuzzies.

Andromeda galaxies

NGC 845 – very faint glow, detected with AV by moving EP (168x).
IC 43 – faint round disk with brighter central area (118x).
IC 46 – small extremely faint spot, detected with AV by moving EP (118x, 168x, 235x).
IC 65 – “blinking” faint narrow lens (118x).
IC 178 – faint round disk, detected with AV next to star (168x).

IC 179 – faint circle with compact core (118x).
IC 1525 – faint oval with brighter central area (118x).
IC 1534 – small faint narrow spot next to star (168x).
NGC 51 – wide oval (168x).
IC 1540 – faint small narrow oval next to star (168x).

NGC 48 – FAIL
IC 1536 – FAIL

I may have a better shot at these two with better transparency.

IC 1542 – faint small oval (168x).
NGC 79 – faint round disk (168x).
NGC 80 – round disk with brighter core (118x).
NGC 83 – small circle (118x).
NGC 86 – faint glow with AV next to star (118x).
NGC 90 and NGC 93 – two very faint AV spots in the same FOV (168x).

By 03:00 I was getting tired of straining eyes at faint stuff but was not ready to call it a session. For something different I went to catch a few asteroids which are summarized in the table below.
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Some fun facts. The largest asteroid from this session was Patientia. At 234 km diameter it is 15th largest asteroid in the belt. The smallest from this session was Amalthea at 46km diameter. It is amazing that we can see a small rock like that ~200 million kilometers away. Antiope is a double asteroid, consisting of two similar size (88 and 84 km) rocks orbiting each other. They are too close to be split by a small scope. It was visually split using bino 2 x 10 meters Keck Telescope on Mauna Kea in 2000.

I have finished around 04:00, quite satisfied except for one thing.

Perseids
Perseids are arguably the most spectacular among all meteor showers. Unfortunately, this year the Perseid maximum on August 13 coincides with full Moon. I thought I should still be able to catch some this morning, since it is just a few nights before the maximum. I took frequent breaks from the EP, and even a couple of longer breaks when I set and gaze at the sky, facing Perseids radiant. In four hours of intermittent observing I did not see a single meteor. On any other random night during the year, I always catch at least one or two meteors just by luck. Not sure what to make of it. Maybe this year is weaker shower?
Scopes: Stellarvue: SV102ED; Celestron: 9.25" EdgeHD, 8" SCT, 150ST, Onyx 80ED; iOptron: Hankmeister 6" Mak; SW: 7" Mak; Meade: 80ST.
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EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.

Observing: DSOs: 3106 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2180, S110: 77). Doubles: 2407, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 255
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What a fantastic report !
I don’t know how you do it I can’t keep my eye lids open like last 1am!
I laughed at your comment “ By 3 am I was getting tired of straining my eyes at faint stuff” .
The other night I had to let one of my dogs out to relieve herself and I was like “ wow the sky looks totally different from midnight ( my usual sleep hour) to 4am” !
I was tempted to stay up and roll out the scope but I would be a zombie the next day!
Gee if I had known there was so much to see I would have started decades ago ! :Astronomer1:

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Frankskywatcher wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:18 pm What a fantastic report !
I don’t know how you do it I can’t keep my eye lids open like last 1am!
I laughed at your comment “ By 3 am I was getting tired of straining my eyes at faint stuff” .
The other night I had to let one of my dogs out to relieve herself and I was like “ wow the sky looks totally different from midnight ( my usual sleep hour) to 4am” !
I was tempted to stay up and roll out the scope but I would be a zombie the next day!
Thanks Frank! I have discovered that if I sleep for at least two hours right before observing I feel refreshed and can enjoy observing any time of the night. I have also discovered that when I am camping I can fall to sleep any time with minimal effort, I think I picked it from my cat. :D
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Binos: APM: 100-90 APO; Canon: IS 15x50; Orion: Binoviewer, LG II 15x70, WV 10x50, Nikon: AE 16x50, 10x50, 8x40.
EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.

Observing: DSOs: 3106 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2180, S110: 77). Doubles: 2407, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 255
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Great session, great read, Andrey! Thanks for the info on asteroids! I also inherited "strange sleeping" habits. A couple of hours sleep gets me though the night. Acquired it from my Father me thinks.

We are planning our yearly Perseids session later this week. Not expecting much given the bright Moon. Hopefully it will be more than "none"!!

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Unitron48 wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 11:58 pm Great session, great read, Andrey! Thanks for the info on asteroids! I also inherited "strange sleeping" habits. A couple of hours sleep gets me though the night. Acquired it from my Father me thinks.

We are planning our yearly Perseids session later this week. Not expecting much given the bright Moon. Hopefully it will be more than "none"!!

Dave
Thanks Dave! Let us know how it goes with Perseids.
Scopes: Stellarvue: SV102ED; Celestron: 9.25" EdgeHD, 8" SCT, 150ST, Onyx 80ED; iOptron: Hankmeister 6" Mak; SW: 7" Mak; Meade: 80ST.
Mounts: SW: SkyTee2, AzGTi; iOptron: AZMP; ES: Twilight I; Bresser: EXOS2; UA: MicroStar.
Binos: APM: 100-90 APO; Canon: IS 15x50; Orion: Binoviewer, LG II 15x70, WV 10x50, Nikon: AE 16x50, 10x50, 8x40.
EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.

Observing: DSOs: 3106 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2180, S110: 77). Doubles: 2407, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 255
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Nicely done Andrey. Andromeda has a whole lot of galaxies beside the more notable M31/32/110 ensemble. Glad to see you got an opportunity to forage for some of its dimmer constituents. I see that neither NGC 48 or IC 1536 are in my log, so I cannot offer any insight on those misses. I do see the former is mag 13.6 (SBr 13.8) and the latter 14.3 (SBr 12.9). Certainly not out of your reach. Just one of those things. Sometimes I am surprised by what I do see, and what I don't. :)

The Perseids will indeed be more of a struggle this year, but one would think that you would have seen something. Randomly I see some every time I am out, mostly in the eyepiece however. Next year will be great since it will be around new moon time.

Definitely VROD material.
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kt4hx wrote: Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:33 am Nicely done Andrey. Andromeda has a whole lot of galaxies beside the more notable M31/32/110 ensemble. Glad to see you got an opportunity to forage for some of its dimmer constituents. I see that neither NGC 48 or IC 1536 are in my log, so I cannot offer any insight on those misses. I do see the former is mag 13.6 (SBr 13.8) and the latter 14.3 (SBr 12.9). Certainly not out of your reach. Just one of those things. Sometimes I am surprised by what I do see, and what I don't. :)

The Perseids will indeed be more of a struggle this year, but one would think that you would have seen something. Randomly I see some every time I am out, mostly in the eyepiece however. Next year will be great since it will be around new moon time.

Definitely VROD material.
Thanks Alan! "Sometimes I am surprised by what I do see, and what I don't." - could not said better myself!
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EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.

Observing: DSOs: 3106 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2180, S110: 77). Doubles: 2407, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 255
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Hi Andrey. A great observing report from your Anza Desert site. As usual, you grabbed a lot of nice DSO objects as well as asteroids. I always enjoy your well written reports as well as the desert flora photographs that you provide for us. Thanks for sharing this recent outing with us Andrey and I also recommend a TSS VROD Award for your work.
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Fabulous report Andrey and some great hauls of galaxies. As always, looking forward to more reports and today you have won the VROD as nominated by several of your peers!
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What a fantastic report, Andrey! ... love the photos of the desert as well. :)

You've picked up some difficult galaxies there with the IC objects.. they are never easy I think... :p I'll have to give some of those a go... but with much lesser skies than Bortle 3, I don't think I'll be successful...

and congrats on the VROD!!! :occasion-balloons:
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Unitron48 wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 11:58 pm Great session, great read, Andrey! Thanks for the info on asteroids! I also inherited "strange sleeping" habits. A couple of hours sleep gets me though the night. Acquired it from my Father me thinks.

We are planning our yearly Perseids session later this week. Not expecting much given the bright Moon. Hopefully it will be more than "none"!!

Dave
Thanks Dave! Good luck with Perseids. For now forecast for the coming weekend does not look great, but if there will be a window I will be out full Moon or not. :)
Makuser wrote: Tue Aug 09, 2022 1:35 pm Hi Andrey. A great observing report from your Anza Desert site. As usual, you grabbed a lot of nice DSO objects as well as asteroids. I always enjoy your well written reports as well as the desert flora photographs that you provide for us. Thanks for sharing this recent outing with us Andrey and I also recommend a TSS VROD Award for your work.
Thanks Marshal! I am glad you liked it.
helicon wrote: Tue Aug 09, 2022 2:09 pm Fabulous report Andrey and some great hauls of galaxies. As always, looking forward to more reports and today you have won the VROD as nominated by several of your peers!
Thanks Michael and friends, much appreciated!
davesellars wrote: Tue Aug 09, 2022 3:52 pm What a fantastic report, Andrey! ... love the photos of the desert as well. :)

You've picked up some difficult galaxies there with the IC objects.. they are never easy I think... :p I'll have to give some of those a go... but with much lesser skies than Bortle 3, I don't think I'll be successful...

and congrats on the VROD!!! :occasion-balloons:
Thanks Dave! With galaxies I am using onion-peeling approach. Observing them layer by layer, starting with brighter and continuing with fainter and fainter and fainter.... :D Onion analogy feels appropriate, because sometimes it is as eye-watering as peeling onions. :lol:

From your reports I gather that you can see Milky Way from your backyard, you also got a nice 12" light bucket. I would say conditions are met for the galaxy hunting. Give it a shot you will be surprised how far you can go.
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Observing: DSOs: 3106 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2180, S110: 77). Doubles: 2407, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 255
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Great report!
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A great report Andrey, and congratulations on receiving the TSS VROD award for your effort.
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Thanks John and Vanessa!
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Binos: APM: 100-90 APO; Canon: IS 15x50; Orion: Binoviewer, LG II 15x70, WV 10x50, Nikon: AE 16x50, 10x50, 8x40.
EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.

Observing: DSOs: 3106 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2180, S110: 77). Doubles: 2407, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 255
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Great report and pictures Andrey; I'm always impressed with your stamina for all that! Well deserved VROD too :D

Thanks for that and all the best,
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Thefatkitty wrote: Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:40 pm Great report and pictures Andrey; I'm always impressed with your stamina for all that! Well deserved VROD too :D

Thanks for that and all the best,
Thanks Mark!
Scopes: Stellarvue: SV102ED; Celestron: 9.25" EdgeHD, 8" SCT, 150ST, Onyx 80ED; iOptron: Hankmeister 6" Mak; SW: 7" Mak; Meade: 80ST.
Mounts: SW: SkyTee2, AzGTi; iOptron: AZMP; ES: Twilight I; Bresser: EXOS2; UA: MicroStar.
Binos: APM: 100-90 APO; Canon: IS 15x50; Orion: Binoviewer, LG II 15x70, WV 10x50, Nikon: AE 16x50, 10x50, 8x40.
EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.

Observing: DSOs: 3106 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2180, S110: 77). Doubles: 2407, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 255
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