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I have been contemplating taking in that flick.

Well...I do find myself in agreement with the quote at the end:

'The multi-verse is a concept about which we know frighteningly little."

Maybe Fritz could get behind that statement on alternate Tuesdays and Saturdays...
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ThinkerX wrote: Sun May 08, 2022 7:34 pm I have been contemplating taking in that flick.

Well...I do find myself in agreement with the quote at the end:

'The multi-verse is a concept about which we know frighteningly little."

Maybe Fritz could get behind that statement on alternate Tuesdays and Saturdays...
I've as yet no need of multiverse hypotheses. (A nod to Laplace there.)
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oh well, the movie might make for an interesting diversion
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ThinkerX wrote: Sun May 08, 2022 11:40 pm oh well, the movie might make for an interesting diversion
yes, i'll probably see it soon with the kids.
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What if multiverse is real, and one of the universes has such laws of nature, that multiverse can't exist? :joking:
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Caught the movie yesterday.

What sort of stood out was the extreme difficulty in physically moving from one universe to another. I was more intrigued by the 'in-between' space.

A interesting break from mundane reality.
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ThinkerX wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 6:41 pm Caught the movie yesterday.

What sort of stood out was the extreme difficulty in physically moving from one universe to another. I was more intrigued by the 'in-between' space.

A interesting break from mundane reality.
I expect to enjoy it with the kids soon.

"Extreme difficulty in physically moving from one universe to another" is to put it mildly. :) Since according to string theorists who propose such things the laws of physics would be different in each. That includes the values in different multiverses of the fine structure constant. Let's just for the moment consider only varying the fine structure constant from multiverse to multiverse. The inverse of the fine structure constant is about 137. That value fixes the maximum stable charge on an atomic nucleus.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Feynmanium

So in a universe where the inverse fine structure constant is 4. That would make beryllium the last element in the periodic table. No carbon. :)

I look forward to seeing what the "in between space" would look like, since it should be impossibly messy what with cosmic inflation going on and there being no fixed laws of physics. :)
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So in a universe where the inverse fine structure constant is 4. That would make beryllium the last element in the periodic table. No carbon. :)

A universe where the periodic table stops at number four - that actually sounds interesting. Would star formation even be possible in such a universe? ::tries to envision lithium/beryllium planets::

(Literally a two second appearance with ten seconds of conversation afterward and no further effect on anything - one of the universes was made out of 'paint.')
I look forward to seeing what the "in between space" would look like, since it should be impossibly messy what with cosmic inflation going on and there being no fixed laws of physics. :)
'Impossibly messy' - yep. I can say they made use of a concept here with deep roots in science fiction going back to the days when we were young.
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ThinkerX wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 9:04 pm
So in a universe where the inverse fine structure constant is 4. That would make beryllium the last element in the periodic table. No carbon. :)

A universe where the periodic table stops at number four - that actually sounds interesting. Would star formation even be possible in such a universe? ::tries to envision lithium/beryllium planets::
Star formation would be possible once things cooled down enough. However only the proton-proton nucleosynthesis would be available the CNO cycle would be ruled out. So stellar evolution would be very different.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton–proton_chain
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Yes, it's highly improbable and all -

- but it is interesting to speculate about possible conditions in some of these other universes.
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