getting a hand up from the Moon?
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getting a hand up from the Moon?
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Re: getting a hand up from the Moon?
Interesting nFA!
I remember hearing about these types of elevators or skyhooks many years ago. Don’t think that I’ll see it in my lifetime though.
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Jim
I remember hearing about these types of elevators or skyhooks many years ago. Don’t think that I’ll see it in my lifetime though.
Thanks,
Jim
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Re: getting a hand up from the Moon?
I'm skeptical about whether the strength of materials is adequate. The stresses are extreme. Theoretical limits are one thing, practical use another.
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Re: getting a hand up from the Moon?
Interesting nevertheless. We've gone from pure pie-in-the-sky science fiction to an application that is potentially within our grasp.
Any metaphor will tear if stretched over too much reality.
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Re: getting a hand up from the Moon?
Strongly agree. Even if the material strength is there, over time there will be fatigue. Probably can be calculated, but can a structure like this be constructed with adequate safety margin, as well as a reasonable lifetime? Indeed, theory is one thing ...notFritzArgelander wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:31 pm I'm skeptical about whether the strength of materials is adequate. The stresses are extreme. Theoretical limits are one thing, practical use another.
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Re: getting a hand up from the Moon?
how do you build a meaningful prototype for testing? i don't see that happening. straight to full up deployment?smp wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:48 pmStrongly agree. Even if the material strength is there, over time there will be fatigue. Probably can be calculated, but can a structure like this be constructed with adequate safety margin, as well as a reasonable lifetime? Indeed, theory is one thing ...notFritzArgelander wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:31 pm I'm skeptical about whether the strength of materials is adequate. The stresses are extreme. Theoretical limits are one thing, practical use another.
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Re: getting a hand up from the Moon?
I just read this article with my morning coffee...
https://observer.com/2019/09/moon-space ... bia-study/
I loved one of the lines near the end: "The whole project may cost a few billion dollars, which is “within the whim of one particularly motivated billionaire,” said Penoyre."
I also wonder what happens when we want to come back "down"? Do we jump?
https://observer.com/2019/09/moon-space ... bia-study/
I loved one of the lines near the end: "The whole project may cost a few billion dollars, which is “within the whim of one particularly motivated billionaire,” said Penoyre."
I also wonder what happens when we want to come back "down"? Do we jump?
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Re: getting a hand up from the Moon?
Well a new interstate may only set the government back "a few billion" but you still need to buy your own car.Lowjiber wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:52 pm I just read this article with my morning coffee...
https://observer.com/2019/09/moon-space ... bia-study/
I loved one of the lines near the end: "The whole project may cost a few billion dollars, which is “within the whim of one particularly motivated billionaire,” said Penoyre."
I also wonder what happens when we want to come back "down"? Do we jump?
Any metaphor will tear if stretched over too much reality.
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Re: getting a hand up from the Moon?
I think that the idea of BASE jumping from geosynchronous orbit would be interesting. Someone (not me) should give it a try.... All you'd need is a suit for reentry.
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