DES finds 300+ minor planets beyond Neptune, 100+ are new
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DES finds 300+ minor planets beyond Neptune, 100+ are new
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Re: DES finds 300+ minor planets beyond Neptune, 100+ are new
Well it would be nice to find planet IX (sorry Pluto!) and even better if it is a Neptune sized object. But adding 300 minor planets beyond the orbit of Neptune is amazing. Some really interesting results to cogitate over. And kudos to those who have been able to use this technological approach to ID these objects. Is Nabiru still out there?
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Re: DES finds 300+ minor planets beyond Neptune, 100+ are new
Nibiru is always out there since it’s in mythical space.
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Re: DES finds 300+ minor planets beyond Neptune, 100+ are new
Sounds like a useful resource. First, we'll mine the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter. Later, we'll mine the asteroid belt beyond Neptune (on our way out of the solar system). Nice to know we won't run out of raw minerals until we get really far away.
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Re: DES finds 300+ minor planets beyond Neptune, 100+ are new
At the rate we're going we will not get off the planet in numbers to warrant resource worry.AntennaGuy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:25 am Sounds like a useful resource. First, we'll mine the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter. Later, we'll mine the asteroid belt beyond Neptune (on our way out of the solar system). Nice to know we won't run out of raw minerals until we get really far away.
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Re: DES finds 300+ minor planets beyond Neptune, 100+ are new
I've yet to see a convincing economic case for returning much of anything to Earth as a profit-making business venture. You'd have better margins for extracting resources from the waste brine produced by desalinization plants with the added advantages of locations near the potential markets and a good deal of the infrastructure would be built anyway because of increasing demand for potable water.AntennaGuy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:25 am Sounds like a useful resource. First, we'll mine the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter. Later, we'll mine the asteroid belt beyond Neptune (on our way out of the solar system). Nice to know we won't run out of raw minerals until we get really far away.
The only compelling scenarios I've seen for extractive operations in space is to boot-strap further exploration by avoiding the cost of bringing bulk materials up from the Earth's gravity well.
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Re: DES finds 300+ minor planets beyond Neptune, 100+ are new
Question for those who understand the orbital mechanics and signal issues better than I do: Would it make sense to put a spacecraft in a retrograde orbit a bit beyond Neptune to try to get a better census of our system's 'suburbs'? I would think that such a platform would see far more proper motion against the background stars and that might allow much more rapid identification and characterization of the TNOs and other minor bodies in the region. Might even spot some long period comets years before an Earth-based or LEO based sensor and give us the requisite decades of warning needed for a successful deflection mission.helicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:25 am Well it would be nice to find planet IX (sorry Pluto!) and even better if it is a Neptune sized object. But adding 300 minor planets beyond the orbit of Neptune is amazing. Some really interesting results to cogitate over. And kudos to those who have been able to use this technological approach to ID these objects. ...
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Re: DES finds 300+ minor planets beyond Neptune, 100+ are new
It's an interesting idea that deserves a look. I think that planning the mission orbit so fuel costs are not prohibitive is challenging but not impossible. In a retrograde orbit micrometeoroid impacts might be the biggest worry?
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Re: DES finds 300+ minor planets beyond Neptune, 100+ are new
Thanks. May have to find a satellite simulator and play with this a bit.
Any metaphor will tear if stretched over too much reality.
Gary C
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Meade 114-EQ-DH f7.9 Newtonian w/ manual GEM
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Jason 10x50 Binoculars
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(And a bunch of stuff I'm still trying to fix or find parts for.)
Gary C
Celestron Astro Master 130mm f5 Newtonian GEM
Meade 114-EQ-DH f7.9 Newtonian w/ manual GEM
Bushnell 90mm f13.9 Catadioptric
Gskyer 80mm f5 Alt/Az refractor
Jason 10x50 Binoculars
Celestron 7x50 Binoculars
Svbony 2.1x42 Binoculars
(And a bunch of stuff I'm still trying to fix or find parts for.)
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