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A surprisingly good side effect of NH observations.

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I did notice that the error bars crept upwards for the more distant Gaia parallaxes, sometimes topping 20%.
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ThinkerX wrote: Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:21 pm I did notice that the error bars crept upwards for the more distant Gaia parallaxes, sometimes topping 20%.
As expected with a limited baseline.
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just went and took another look at the Gaia catalog.

Past roughly 500 parsecs, the error bars are usually upwards of 10%, frequently hitting 40%-50%.

past 1000 parsecs, the majority of listings look to have errors of 50% or greater; saw many with error bars greater than the parallax measurements.

also saw quite a few negative parallaxes, something that always struck me as a little absurd.

Gaia distances probably not that reliable past 500 parsecs. of course, that is from a quick look-see.
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ThinkerX wrote: Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:16 pm just went and took another look at the Gaia catalog.

Past roughly 500 parsecs, the error bars are usually upwards of 10%, frequently hitting 40%-50%.

past 1000 parsecs, the majority of listings look to have errors of 50% or greater; saw many with error bars greater than the parallax measurements.

also saw quite a few negative parallaxes, something that always struck me as a little absurd.

Gaia distances probably not that reliable past 500 parsecs. of course, that is from a quick look-see.
Negative parallaxes are to be expected due to random measurement errors. Of course they just mean that the parallax is to small to be measured.
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now that I think about it, Vizier has a catalog where this sort of thing was done with Voyager a long time ago...
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ThinkerX wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:39 pm now that I think about it, Vizier has a catalog where this sort of thing was done with Voyager a long time ago...
The important thing would be to compare instrumental precision.
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Thanks for that nFA.

The Interstellar Neighbourhood 3D map is intriguing to look at!

It will be interesting to see how the experiment goes in April.

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Very cool; great idea and article nFA :D The best part was I understood the whole thing! :lol:

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incredibly amazing and awesome.
thank you nFA!!! :)
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