Still turtles all the way down, but a more modern version.
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Still turtles all the way down, but a more modern version.
In summary: it's all still turtles all the way down:
https://www.hillfaith.org/hillfaith/exp ... -in-a-lab/
which links to the article at: https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... aboratory/
(Background: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtles_all_the_way_down )
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https://www.hillfaith.org/hillfaith/exp ... -in-a-lab/
which links to the article at: https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... aboratory/
(Background: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtles_all_the_way_down )
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Re: Still turtles all the way down, but a more modern version.
I know a few ppl who seem to have been made with less than the normal complement of neural matter. Or perhaps a few connections are loose or missing. Seems like QC could be improved a bit.
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Re: Still turtles all the way down, but a more modern version.
I offer in supporting evidence,
Scopes: Refs: Orion ST80, SV 80EDA f7, TS 102ED f11 Newts: AWB 130mm, f5, Z12 f5; Cats: VMC110L, Intes MK66,VMC200L f9.75 EPs: KK Fujiyama Orthoscopics, 2x Vixen NPLs (40-6mm) and BCOs, Baader Mark IV zooms, TV Panoptics, Delos, Plossl 32-8mm. Mixed brand Masuyama/Astroplans Binoculars: Nikon Aculon 10x50, Celestron 15x70, Baader Maxbright. Mounts: Star Seeker IV, Vixen Porta II, Celestron CG5
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Re: Still turtles all the way down, but a more modern version.
I hadn't been aware of the curiosity of how panda "thumbs" developed.notFritzArgelander wrote: ↑Thu Oct 28, 2021 6:49 pmI offer in supporting evidence,Avi Loeb, the Panda thumb, etc.
See (among others): https://faculty.washington.edu/lynnhank/Gould.pdf
* Meade 323 refractor on a manual equatorial mount.
* Celestron C6 SCT on a Twilight 1 Alt-Az mount
Prof. Barnhardt to Klaatu in The Day the Earth Stood Still: "There are several thousand questions I'd like to ask you.”
* Celestron C6 SCT on a Twilight 1 Alt-Az mount
Prof. Barnhardt to Klaatu in The Day the Earth Stood Still: "There are several thousand questions I'd like to ask you.”
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Re: Still turtles all the way down, but a more modern version.
Glad to help. The evolution of the panda thumb is an interesting counterexample to intelligent design.AntennaGuy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 29, 2021 3:29 amI hadn't been aware of the curiosity of how panda "thumbs" developed.notFritzArgelander wrote: ↑Thu Oct 28, 2021 6:49 pmI offer in supporting evidence,Avi Loeb, the Panda thumb, etc.
See (among others): https://faculty.washington.edu/lynnhank/Gould.pdf
Scopes: Refs: Orion ST80, SV 80EDA f7, TS 102ED f11 Newts: AWB 130mm, f5, Z12 f5; Cats: VMC110L, Intes MK66,VMC200L f9.75 EPs: KK Fujiyama Orthoscopics, 2x Vixen NPLs (40-6mm) and BCOs, Baader Mark IV zooms, TV Panoptics, Delos, Plossl 32-8mm. Mixed brand Masuyama/Astroplans Binoculars: Nikon Aculon 10x50, Celestron 15x70, Baader Maxbright. Mounts: Star Seeker IV, Vixen Porta II, Celestron CG5
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Re: Still turtles all the way down, but a more modern version.
Yes. But then, there is (arguably) no shortage of evidence of not-particularly-competent design! Maybe the advanced alien beings who designed our universe are these folks. It would explain a lot.notFritzArgelander wrote: ↑Fri Oct 29, 2021 4:00 am ...Glad to help. The evolution of the panda thumb is an interesting counterexample to intelligent design.
* Meade 323 refractor on a manual equatorial mount.
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Prof. Barnhardt to Klaatu in The Day the Earth Stood Still: "There are several thousand questions I'd like to ask you.”
* Celestron C6 SCT on a Twilight 1 Alt-Az mount
Prof. Barnhardt to Klaatu in The Day the Earth Stood Still: "There are several thousand questions I'd like to ask you.”
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Re: Still turtles all the way down, but a more modern version.
OK folks, I think I've figured this out. It has been asserted that in light of the subtle and sophisticated mathematics that describes the known (so far) laws of the universe, God is clearly a mathematician of the highest rank. And... that's the problem! Have you ever seen what happens when a brilliant theorist tries to do engineering? Heh.
* Meade 323 refractor on a manual equatorial mount.
* Celestron C6 SCT on a Twilight 1 Alt-Az mount
Prof. Barnhardt to Klaatu in The Day the Earth Stood Still: "There are several thousand questions I'd like to ask you.”
* Celestron C6 SCT on a Twilight 1 Alt-Az mount
Prof. Barnhardt to Klaatu in The Day the Earth Stood Still: "There are several thousand questions I'd like to ask you.”
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Re: Still turtles all the way down, but a more modern version.
AntennaGuy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 30, 2021 4:45 pm OK folks, I think I've figured this out. It has been asserted that in light of the subtle and sophisticated mathematics that describes the known (so far) laws of the universe, God is clearly a mathematician of the highest rank. And... that's the problem! Have you ever seen what happens when a brilliant theorist tries to do engineering? Heh.
Any metaphor will tear if stretched over too much reality.
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Gary C
Celestron Astro Master 130mm f5 Newtonian GEM
Meade 114-EQ-DH f7.9 Newtonian w/ manual GEM
Bushnell 90mm f13.9 Catadioptric
Gskyer 80mm f5 Alt/Az refractor
Jason 10x50 Binoculars
Celestron 7x50 Binoculars
Svbony 2.1x42 Binoculars
(And a bunch of stuff I'm still trying to fix or find parts for.)
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