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A computer to control the instruments has failed.
https://phys.org/news/2021-06-nasa-hubb ... scope.html
https://phys.org/news/2021-06-nasa-hubb ... scope.html
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So it's only what, 500% beyond the originally planned mission lifetime? I'll miss the steady stream of images but HST has been so wildly successful that it's hard to be sad at this point.
The JWST has some very big shoes to fill.
The JWST has some very big shoes to fill.
Any metaphor will tear if stretched over too much reality.
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All true, but I'm still sad to see it go. JWST will hopefully see first light someday......
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Any chance that astronauts could repair it? I'm not holding my breath for the JWST to be put into orbit anytime soon.
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It could be repaired by astronauts if there was the political will to do so. This failed computer was upgraded/repaired on a previous spacewalk. That's something that would be much more difficult with JWST.
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Very unfortunate, hopefully NASA will be able to come up with a fix of some sort.
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Trying to fix a 1980's computer remotely doesn't sound good
I remember when it was launched, I thought I hope to see these images, not realizing there would be an internet someday.
I remember when it was launched, I thought I hope to see these images, not realizing there would be an internet someday.
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Well, I guess it had to happen at one point... Still, Hubble was to me Old Faithful. I hold it personally responsible for getting me back into the whole astronomy thing in my mid-twenties. Now I'm in my mid-fifties...
I am glad I got to live through what it found out. I have a lot of astronomy books and magazines; I still refer to to them as pre and postHST . So many discoveries, confirmations and game-changers.
Too bad we couldn't roll out one more Shuttle. As for the JWST, well, I'm with all of you on that one...!!
Thanks for the info nFA; though like yourself, not news I wanted to hear!
I am glad I got to live through what it found out. I have a lot of astronomy books and magazines; I still refer to to them as pre and post
Too bad we couldn't roll out one more Shuttle. As for the JWST, well, I'm with all of you on that one...!!
Thanks for the info nFA; though like yourself, not news I wanted to hear!
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Kinda like a good friend in trouble. Thanks nFA.
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I'm skeptical that the JWST will be launched at all.
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I can understand that. For once the current delay isn't because of the JWST itself but rather the launch vehicle. My skepticism is more about whether it will unfold itself and deploy as planned once it gets on station.John Fitzgerald wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:11 pm I'm skeptical that the JWST will be launched at all.
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I imagine with the Falcon/Crew Dragon combo, SpaceX could put together a repair mission for much less cost than a Shuttle flight. I just don't know how it would work without the shuttle's robot arm to stabilize the
Any metaphor will tear if stretched over too much reality.
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ahh. we don't need hubble, we have us for pretty pictures , let us do the good stuff and jwst for the science .
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but Hubble isn't just for pretty pictures. it still does science. JWST also doesn't cover the visible and UV light like
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Crap!
I'd say, both would be better than either one.
I'd say, both would be better than either one.
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Lesson nr. 1: never let Windows update your computer that you use for astro imaging....... :eek:
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Thanks nFA.
Sad news indeed. A true marvel of human engineering.
Hubble’s contributions are immeasurable.
Sad news indeed. A true marvel of human engineering.
Hubble’s contributions are immeasurable.
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