It Was Phosphine After All

[Graeme1858]

Turns out it wasn't Sulphur Dioxide! Original findings supported.

https://earthsky.org/space/phosphine-di ... venus-1978

Regards

Graeme

[notFritzArgelander]

Thanks for the update. Previous discussions can be readily found by our handy actually working search function using Venus and phosphine.

I have one logical point to add on how this independent result relates to the original discovery discussed before and its debunking. It is unclear whether the findings from 2020 are valid or not. There is still argument about whether to interpret it as sulfur dioxide which can also be found using the search function. This independent result supports phosphine in Venus atmosphere but the detection from 2020 remains in limbo.

[turboscrew]

Raises curiosity, nevertheless.

[notFritzArgelander]

Raises curiosity, nevertheless.

I think the best working hypothesis is that there is phosphine in Venus atmosphere so some sort of floating life or exotic nonbiological process needs to be considered. The older threads indicate that the claims of the radio spectrum detection are in doubt. That hasn't been settled yet AFAIK. The mass spectrometry data supporting this particular finding is independent and IMO valid. If anything it is more reliable and certain than the original claims in 2020.

[Graeme1858]

Thanks for the update. Previous discussions can be readily found by our handy actually working search function using Venus and phosphine.

I did the search but decided the Pioneer data element of the story was new news and warranted a new thread!

Excellent how data from 1978 can be analysed and used to build a new layer to a current story!

Regards

Graeme

[helicon]

Very interesting confirmation. Perhaps there is some kind of imponderable life form in the "cool" upper atmosphere of Venus.

[notFritzArgelander]

Thanks for the update. Previous discussions can be readily found by our handy actually working search function using Venus and phosphine.

I did the search but decided the Pioneer data element of the story was new news and warranted a new thread!

Excellent how data from 1978 can be analysed and used to build a new layer to a current story!

Regards

Graeme

I wasn't at all suggesting that a new thread was not warranted. This is definitely a new result, fresh news from older data. The older threads involve a disputed claim of detection that remains disputed AFAIK. The fight over that data remains unresolved.

[notFritzArgelander]

Thanks for the update. Previous discussions can be readily found by our handy actually working search function using Venus and phosphine.

I did the search but decided the Pioneer data element of the story was new news and warranted a new thread!

Excellent how data from 1978 can be analysed and used to build a new layer to a current story!

Regards

Graeme

I wasn't at all suggesting that a new thread was not warranted. This is definitely a new result, fresh news from older data. The older threads involve a disputed claim of detection that remains disputed AFAIK. The fight over that data remains unresolved.

BTW I usually post links to previous discussions when responding. In this case it was inconvenient and I just wanted to signify to the curious reader how to find them.