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I finally got a chance to go out and image. As usual, it's clear during the full moon so I took the opportunity to image the bright planets, Jupiter and Saturn. I got sleepy waiting for Mars to get high enough, so no Mars yet. Probably next month. Right now, because of my latitude both Jupiter and Saturn get up to 45° of altitude above the horizon, so they're well out of the muck!

So let's start with an extra. My son's girlfriend had never seen Saturn through a scope before and she absolutely marveled at Saturn through the C11. She asked if she could take a picture with her phone and I said sure. We all know how that turned out. So I said gimme a try with my phone. There's nothing special about my phone except I know how it operates. I held the phone to my 15mm EP while she pushed the shutter icon. This is what we got. Image Not bad for a cell phone -- I got lucky!

Next, we move onto the main event. I captured Jupiter and Saturn the following night (7/31/20 - a fuller moon) and managed several good video files. The only problem was that the wind was strong enough to move my OTA (it takes a substantial wind to move a C11 OTA). This kept me from using my 2X barlow which kept my FL at 2800mm instead of my normal 5600mm. This gave me these smaller images.

For video acquisition I tried a new software title - ASI Studio, Planetary Imaging option selected. This was the first time I've used this title and it is simple and easy to use.

Jupiter: 4000 frames, top 400 used (video elapsed time was less than 3 minutes) through an ASI 120MC (old model) gain 30, exposure 22ms.
Processed in PIPP, AutoStakkert!3 (AS3) with the "Sharpen" box checked, PSCC, RegiStax6 Wavelets (RS6W). I did the RS6W after PSCC and that was new, so was selecting Sharpen in AS3.

Saturn: 5000 frames, top 500 used, ASI 120MC, gain 30, exposure 42ms.
Same processing sequence as Jupiter.
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And the final extra is to share how I find the best focus for my planetary imaging. I purchased a used Crayford 2-speed focuser that screws onto the visual back of my C11. This gives me the advantage of fine focusing without any image shift. You may not know that an SCT image shifts every time you reverse the focusing knob. For visual work, it is only mildly annoying, but in planetary imaging where I'm using the equivalent of a 2X barlowed 6mm ( the diagonal measure of my sensor, effectively giving me a 3mm) EP in an f/10, 2800 mm FL system, image shift becomes a BIG deal. So the Crayford eliminates this annoyance. Also, it makes it easier to "tweak" the focusing, before, during, and after capturing the video file. I set the Crayford at the middle point of its focusing range, then I get my best focus using the SCT's FeatherTouch focuser. From then on out, I'm using nothing but the Crayford to tweak the focus. Here is what I use. Image

So fun times have been had and some images I'm fairly proud of came about.

Cheers,
JT

PS, To see what 5600mm of FL can do, go to my gallery app.php/gallery/album/11 and scroll down to see my larger versions of Jupiter and Saturn from 2 years ago. jt
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Really fine images JT!

The details and coloration is striking!
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Nice images! I think they are quite good..
Very well detailed!
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Very nice! Lots of detail! Especially like the Saturn image!!

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Wonderful photos! Is that Titan in the Saturn image?
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Very nice JT, and a great tip on the focusing. Too bad you couldn't hang on for Mars. I was up at about 3:00 Saturday morning and caught a naked eye glimpse of it. I don't know if it just because it is further off the horizon than Jupiter and Saturn, but it looked MUCH brighter that either of them. I was a bit surprised by the big red blob sitting up there a bit southwest of Aldebaran.

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Ruud wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 1:25 pm Wonderful photos! Is that Titan in the Saturn image?
Hi Ruud,
I don't believe so. To my eye, none of the moons showed up in this series of vids, but you bring up a good point. Next time I'll accomplish some video files with exposure and gain settings that will show the moons and I'll mask them into the final image.

Thanks for the suggestion.

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Congratulations JT, on having your Jupiter image selected as todays TSS APOD!!!

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Congrats on winning the APOD for today JT. Some super-nice photos there.
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Hi JT. I really enjoy both of your planetary images. You have great equatorial belting as well as sub the belting on Jupiter. And, excellent planetary colors on Saturn and a well defined Cassini ring. I am glad that you had a great time out with the C11 scope, and your son's girlfriend got to enjoy some great views too. Thanks for taking the time to put these fine captures up on here JT, and congratulations on winning the TSS APOD Award today.
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Nice details JT! Is that a hint of the hexagon in Saturn image?
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Nice work JT!!! Congratulations on the TSS APOD! Well deserved.
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Some great shots there. I always admire people who do planetary imaging, I find getting a decent image much more difficult that DS imaging.

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Hi JayTee

Really nice images. I was very interested in your focus tip as I have a CPC 925 and the same ZWO camera.

I was filming Jupiter and Saturn over the weekend but for me they are so low circa 11 deg so had to film between trees and houses when it was only just dark.

I did manage to film one of those sky waves. Ive been trying to capture one on the moon for 4 years and caught one passing Jupiter by accident.

I was looking at getting a feather touch but as I understand what you are saying the Crayford type seems a more sensible way to go.

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Bigzmey wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:00 pmNice details JT! Is that a hint of the hexagon in Saturn's image?
Thanks Bigz,
Capturing that darn hexagon is one of my major goals for Saturn. I will get it one of these days!

Thanks again,
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Hey JT,

Never done any planetary myself, but I have some feel for just how good your images are simply by looking at them as posted. And, well, they're excellent in my book.

Oh, and congrats on the TSS APOD.

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Very NIce JT Love the detail! And Congrats on the APOD!
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