First Light - ES 80mm f/6 - Serendipitous NEOWISE

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Several days ago I rescued my 80mm f/6 Triplet ED APO Explore Scientific refractor that I had stashed in the back of a closet about two years ago and thought I'd piggyback it on my Quattro 8 to see what kind of AP performance I could squeeze out of it. Overall, I was a bit disappointed with the excessive amount of coma this particular triplet glass had to offer. Chromatic aberration was low to non-existent, the central image was good and crisp, but when I post on the DSO forum a sampling of DSO images I grabbed last night and this early morning you'll see what I mean about the excessive coma. However, and it's a big however, my Baader coma corrector for my Quattro 8 f/4 astrograph and my Guan Sheng 8 f/5 might be able to come to the rescue. In a few days I'll attempt another sky safari to see if the coma corrector does the trick.

That said, I did stumble into actually capturing my first images of Comet NEOWISE which wasn't on my to-do list for the evening. I really didn't know exactly where it was in the evening sky and how viewable it would be from my somewhat tree-line horizon location at the Penfield/Middlefork dark site. I had just finished putting my equipment together when a young couple drove up into the parking lot. It was getting pretty dusky and I asked if they were there to to see the comet. Yep. So I pointed them toward the general direction I thought it might be (at the time I had thought it had already set behind some trees) where a line of trees stood about half-a-mile away. After a minute the young man, Ryan, thought he saw it naked eye to the northwest where I had generally pointed. I retrieved a pair of Nikon 7x50 binocularas and let him borrow it. Yep, that was it. When he pointed where it was, I could see it myself. Though I hadn't performed a polar alignment, I knew I was roughly within a couple of degrees of Polaris given the fact I generally set up in the exact same area of the rock parking lot.

So I hurriedly manually slewed the telescope, which originally refused to move (yikes!) and finally got it pointed in the vicinity of NEOWISE. Unfortunately, I didn't shift from BULB mode to AE mode on my Canon 77D so I was shooting blind (though aided by my finderscope which wasn't exactly aligned with the piggybacked ES 80mm refractor). This image is the very first image I grabbed of NEOWISE but the comet was dropping fast behind the trees due to sidereal motion. Unfortunately I lost my 50-50 chance of hitting the right slew button and my next shot had more foreground tree silhouettes and less comet! By the time I was able to roughly frame the comet it's head was already in the tree line. The second image is the last frame I took, all within a span of three minutes.

Despite the troubles, it was still a kick in the pants because I actually captured an image of NEOWISE which I wasn't planning on doing for the next three or four days until it climbed higher into the sky. Now I'm committed to finding a weather/cloud window at sunset somewhere within a two hour drive of my home in order to capture more NEOWISE images. Until I get the coma issue figured out for the ES 80mm, I'll remount my Meade 70mm f/5 astropgraph which yields a wider field of view anyway and try to follow the progression of this comet as it tracks through the sky.

Sorry for the novel-length treatment, but the event was so extraordinary and serendipitous I thought it was worth mentioning in some detail.

Explore Scientific 80mm f/6 APO triplet refractor
Canon EOS 77D unmodified
15.3 seconds, ISO 1600 (I was in such a rush, I didn't think to reset the Canon from it's deep sky Bulb mode at ISO 1600)
No filters, Sidereal rate only
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Gotcya, sucker! First shot shooting blind in Bulb mode!
Gotcya, sucker! First shot shooting blind in Bulb mode!
Bye-bye for the evening Comet NEOWISE
Bye-bye for the evening Comet NEOWISE
My Evening's Set-Up ... ten minutes before imaging NEOWISE
My Evening's Set-Up ... ten minutes before imaging NEOWISE
Telescopes: Meade LX90 10-inch f/10 UHC Coma-free SCT; Explore Scientific 127mm f/7.5 APO ED triplet refractor; Explore Scientific 102mm f/7 APO ED triplet refractor; Explore Scientific 80mm f/6 APO ED triplet refractor; Skywatcher 72mm f/6 ED Schott doublet refractor; Meade 70mm f/5 APO quadruplet astrograph refractor; Skywatcher Quattro 8-inch f/4 Newtonian astrograph; Orion 6-inch f/4 Newtonian astrograph; Skywatcher SkyMax 180mm f/15 Maksutov; iOptron 150mm f/12 Maksutov; Orion f/9 Ritchey-Chretien RC astrograph
Eyepieces: Set of 7 Baader Hyperion eyepieces, 3 Meade 5000 glass handgrenades; 1970s era Japanese manufactured Meade 12.5mm Orthoscopic, and too many other eclectic eyepieces to list
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Very NIce Henry and I love how you tell your detailed imaging adventures.
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I own that particular refractor and I would highly recommend the use of an FF with it. I own both the Hotech SCA2 and the Astro-Tech AT2FF. Both of these work well but I prefer the AT2FF.

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∞ Primary Scopes: #1: Celestron CPC1100 #2: 8" f/7.5 Dob #3: CR150HD f/8 6" frac
∞ AP Scopes: #1: TPO 6" f/9 RC #2: ES 102 f/7 APO #3: ES 80mm f/6 APO
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∞ Guide Scopes: 70 & 80mm fracs -- The El Cheapo Bros.
∞ Mounts: iOptron CEM70AG, SW EQ6R, Celestron AVX, SLT & GT (Alt-Az), Meade DS2000
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∞ Binos: 10X50,11X70,15X70, 25X100 ∞ AP Gear: ZWO EAF and mini EFW and the Optolong L-eXteme filter
∞ EPs: ES 2": 21mm 100° & 30mm 82° Pentax XW: 7, 10, 14, & 20mm 70°

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That is really a cool setup Henry!

I would love to have a ED80 APO. I really like the fov. Looks like it is your guide scope!

Great image! Still haven't been able to spot this bugger. Thanks for the photo and nice write.
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That's a great first image. Hopefully, you won't have to rush on your next attempt.
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Hey, JT. Have you imaged with your ES 80mm? If so, would you mind posting an image or images on this thread?
Telescopes: Meade LX90 10-inch f/10 UHC Coma-free SCT; Explore Scientific 127mm f/7.5 APO ED triplet refractor; Explore Scientific 102mm f/7 APO ED triplet refractor; Explore Scientific 80mm f/6 APO ED triplet refractor; Skywatcher 72mm f/6 ED Schott doublet refractor; Meade 70mm f/5 APO quadruplet astrograph refractor; Skywatcher Quattro 8-inch f/4 Newtonian astrograph; Orion 6-inch f/4 Newtonian astrograph; Skywatcher SkyMax 180mm f/15 Maksutov; iOptron 150mm f/12 Maksutov; Orion f/9 Ritchey-Chretien RC astrograph
Eyepieces: Set of 7 Baader Hyperion eyepieces, 3 Meade 5000 glass handgrenades; 1970s era Japanese manufactured Meade 12.5mm Orthoscopic, and too many other eclectic eyepieces to list
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Sure,

Here are three images that are in my gallery page.

The Eta Carina Nebula
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Omega Centauri Globular
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M8 and M20. This is not a composite, the FOV is that wide! Believe it or not, the entire Eta Carina Nebula is larger than the distance between M8 and M20
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All three images were taken through the ES 80mm f/6 APO using a Canon T3i and the Astro-Tech AT2FF FF.

Cheers,
JT
∞ Primary Scopes: #1: Celestron CPC1100 #2: 8" f/7.5 Dob #3: CR150HD f/8 6" frac
∞ AP Scopes: #1: TPO 6" f/9 RC #2: ES 102 f/7 APO #3: ES 80mm f/6 APO
∞ G&G Scopes: #1: Meade 102mm f/7.8 #2: Bresser 102mm f/4.5
∞ Guide Scopes: 70 & 80mm fracs -- The El Cheapo Bros.
∞ Mounts: iOptron CEM70AG, SW EQ6R, Celestron AVX, SLT & GT (Alt-Az), Meade DS2000
∞ Cameras: #1: ZWO ASI294MC Pro #2: 662MC #3: 120MC, Canon T3i, Orion SSAG, WYZE Cam3
∞ Binos: 10X50,11X70,15X70, 25X100 ∞ AP Gear: ZWO EAF and mini EFW and the Optolong L-eXteme filter
∞ EPs: ES 2": 21mm 100° & 30mm 82° Pentax XW: 7, 10, 14, & 20mm 70°

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Thanks, JT! It's almost hard to believe that a little ol' 80mm refractor can deliver such wonderful astro-photos like those you posted. I remember back forty years ago when everyone was aperture crazy ... including myself with my 10-inch f/5.5 Meade mirrored Newtonian! Little 70mm, 3-inch and 80mm glass were scoffed at as being "toys". Of course the vast majority of consumer-grade refractors were two-element achromats and not triplet apochromatics, mostly cemented and not air-spaced with Schott glass for one optical element. I don't know if "Schott glass" was even around that long ago for amateur astronomical use, at least not here in the States. I guess it wasn't until after the Berlin Wall fell in 1991/92 that Schott glass optics became more popular throughout the world. Just my limited read on things. I'll stand corrected on this.
Telescopes: Meade LX90 10-inch f/10 UHC Coma-free SCT; Explore Scientific 127mm f/7.5 APO ED triplet refractor; Explore Scientific 102mm f/7 APO ED triplet refractor; Explore Scientific 80mm f/6 APO ED triplet refractor; Skywatcher 72mm f/6 ED Schott doublet refractor; Meade 70mm f/5 APO quadruplet astrograph refractor; Skywatcher Quattro 8-inch f/4 Newtonian astrograph; Orion 6-inch f/4 Newtonian astrograph; Skywatcher SkyMax 180mm f/15 Maksutov; iOptron 150mm f/12 Maksutov; Orion f/9 Ritchey-Chretien RC astrograph
Eyepieces: Set of 7 Baader Hyperion eyepieces, 3 Meade 5000 glass handgrenades; 1970s era Japanese manufactured Meade 12.5mm Orthoscopic, and too many other eclectic eyepieces to list
Mounts: Skywatcher EQ6-R Pro mount; Orion Atlas EQ-G mount
Post-production Software: Not good enough … oh, okay ... Canon's proprietary CanoScan ArcSoft 9000F photoshop suite
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