NGC 1582 Challenge of the month December 2021

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NGC 1582 is one of the challenges of the month. It is a nice open cluster in Perseus. I observed it with my 150mm f/5 achromat from my city skies. At first glance NGC1582 looked like an arc shaped group of 8 and 9 magnitude stars. So at first I thought the arc was the whole cluster. When I looked longer with 83X and 116X I could make out the arc was part of a group of dimmer stars which formed a rough sort of circle. I am not sure if all dimmer
stars are members of the same group. Within the circle there were much less stars. The Lucida ( the brightest one) is of magnitude 8.6
The cluster looks a bit like NGC6811, the "hole in a cluster".

My impression.
By clicking the image you zoom in and get the same effect I had at the eyepiece
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Sorry computer changed my word what I meant say is excellent

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Nice sketch John and congrats on winning the VROD for the day!
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Well done for getting your VROD John I hope to see more from you very good job
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Mirrorgirl wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:48 pm Well done for getting your VROD John I hope to see more from you very good job
Thanks! There are some more sketches in the Gallery if you want to see more.
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Excellent sketch and observation John. Definitely a VROD report.
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Great sketch John and congrats on VROD!
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Hi John. An excellent sketch of the NGC1582 open cluster in Perseus. This is a very nice rendering using your trusty 150 f/5 refractor. Thanks for sharing this with us on here John and congratulations on receiving the TSS VROD Award today.
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Thanks to everyone for the kind words and congratulations!
I never expected such a short report to be VROD. Nice that classic oldschool sketching has a chance too. Thanks!
Refractors in frequency of use : *SW Evostar 120ED F/7.5 (all round ), * Vixen 102ED F/9 (vintage), both on Vixen GPDX.
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Most used Eyepieces: *Panoptic 24, *Morpheus 14, *Leica ASPH zoom, *Zeiss barlow, *Pentax XO5.
Commonly used bino's : *Jena 10X50 , * Canon 10X30 IS, *Swarovski Habicht 7X42, * Celestron 15X70, *Kasai 2.3X40
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John Baars wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:09 pm Thanks to everyone for the kind words and congratulations!
I never expected such a short report to be VROD. Nice that classic oldschool sketching has a chance too. Thanks!
The length of a report has nothing to do with it at all John. Its the content that matters. If sketching is done in coordination with a visual observation then it certainly warrants consideration. I knew a couple of folks who sketched and/or painted astronomical objects from images rather than direct observation. They did so simply because they enjoyed the process of drawing/painting and were not so much into the observational aspect. In those cases, I would not see that as a basis for a VROD since their interpretation is not of what they've seen directly through a telescope. However, we all know you do enjoy visual observation of deep sky objects and the rendering of those through sketching. So congrats on a well deserved award my friend.
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John Baars wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:09 pm Thanks to everyone for the kind words and congratulations!
I never expected such a short report to be VROD. Nice that classic oldschool sketching has a chance too. Thanks!
Sketching relying on the view through a telescope is taking visual observing to another level, as you are actually rendering what is seen in the eyepiece, with quite a bit of care. One could write a lengthy report or one could carefully sketch an object. In my mind, it is part of the same mental process, hence certainly worthy of the award. I can write OK but can't sketch worth a darn, for example.
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helicon wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 11:58 pm
John Baars wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:09 pm Thanks to everyone for the kind words and congratulations!
I never expected such a short report to be VROD. Nice that classic oldschool sketching has a chance too. Thanks!
Sketching relying on the view through a telescope is taking visual observing to another level, as you are actually rendering what is seen in the eyepiece, with quite a bit of care. One could write a lengthy report or one could carefully sketch an object. In my mind, it is part of the same mental process, hence certainly worthy of the award. I can write OK but can't sketch worth a darn, for example.

Exactly Michael. I sketch with words, as do you. John puts his words into a visual depiction of the object. Both can be challenging, and both are worthy of being recognized.
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ES 82° 18mm || Pentax XW 70° 10mm, 7mm and 5mm || barlows
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Great observation and sketch, John! Congrats on a well deserved VROD.

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Fine work John !
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Congrats! Great report and nice capture.
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Beautiful sketch John
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