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Prom moving off the sun, new version (much better).
Taken with a Lunt 102ED, Quark Chromosphere, and ZWO ASI174mm
This prom was imaged over 10 minutes, very unusual to see something that size move that quickly, you could actually see it move!

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Nice!
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Nice capture Ben.
Thanks for sharing this.
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Very nice Jeff.:)

Ten minutes? You must have bought the program when coming in the gate to know that was going to be the half-time show. LOL

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nice work , thx .
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Lowjiber wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:53 pm Very nice Jeff.:)

Ten minutes? You must have bought the program when coming in the gate to know that was going to be the half-time show. LOL

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I went out to test out different scopes on the sun to compare since it was a rare clear day. I took the first shot at 9:18 and it didn't seem to be anything special, then I was checking something and went back to the laptop screen and saw that the Prom was now a loop and I could see it moving or so it seemed to be so I decided to sit and watch it and image it every minute. I am glad I decided to watching and see what developed. I have never seen one move that quickly and obviously!
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Nice catch Ben, loved the animation as well!! I hear you on the rare clear days :D

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Excellent animation Ben! Also, I was wondering what setting do you put the Quark Chromosphere on for Proms? For Chromosphere Mine is best at the 11:00 position tuned to the left, should the Proms be tuned to the right? Also, what did you use for the exposure, and did you touch gamma? I know it will be different for my environment and setup but I am just curious from your experience.

Thanks for sharing :)
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That is indeed a nice capture 👍
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TheButcher wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 8:46 pm Excellent animation Ben! Also, I was wondering what setting do you put the Quark Chromosphere on for Proms? For Chromosphere Mine is best at the 11:00 position tuned to the left, should the Proms be tuned to the right? Also, what did you use for the exposure, and did you touch gamma? I know it will be different for my environment and setup but I am just curious from your experience.

Thanks for sharing :)
My Quark favors the right side. My normal setting are the +3 (3 o'clock) position, sometimes +4, I used the same setting for both proms and chromosphere. I have kept Sharpcap 3.0 for solar as I use the gamma rather than changing the Quark. I use a gamma of 1 or 2 for the surface and a gamma of 95 for proms, then I will back the gamma down to 90 or 85 and see if it helps. I keep gain at 50%, with my ASI174 that is gain of 150. I set the exposure to what looks good. I am very visual oriented.

I have tried straight up ( 0 or 12 o'clock) or even into the "-" left side but it looks bad. Sometimes I think about another Quark to see what the settings would be. My Quark is way over on the plus side
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Ben Cartwright SASS wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 11:16 pm
TheButcher wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 8:46 pm Excellent animation Ben! Also, I was wondering what setting do you put the Quark Chromosphere on for Proms? For Chromosphere Mine is best at the 11:00 position tuned to the left, should the Proms be tuned to the right? Also, what did you use for the exposure, and did you touch gamma? I know it will be different for my environment and setup but I am just curious from your experience.

Thanks for sharing :)
My Quark favors the right side. My normal setting are the +3 (3 o'clock) position, sometimes +4, I used the same setting for both proms and chromosphere. I have kept Sharpcap 3.0 for solar as I use the gamma rather than changing the Quark. I use a gamma of 1 or 2 for the surface and a gamma of 95 for proms, then I will back the gamma down to 90 or 85 and see if it helps. I keep gain at 50%, with my ASI174 that is gain of 150. I set the exposure to what looks good. I am very visual oriented.

I have tried straight up ( 0 or 12 o'clock) or even into the "-" left side but it looks bad. Sometimes I think about another Quark to see what the settings would be. My Quark is way over on the plus side
Thanks So Much Ben for the detailed information :)

I was using FC but I will try Sharpcap for Solar now and play around with those settings a bit when I do the Proms. And as far as the Quark goes, I guess I should leave it in the 11:OO position where it is stable I think.

Thanks Again :)
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TheButcher wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:30 am I was using FC but I will try Sharpcap for Solar now and play around with those settings a bit when I do the Proms. And as far as the Quark goes, I guess I should leave it in the 11:OO position where it is stable I think.

Thanks Again :)
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Great rendering Jeff!
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TheButcher wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:30 am
Ben Cartwright SASS wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 11:16 pm
TheButcher wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 8:46 pm Excellent animation Ben! Also, I was wondering what setting do you put the Quark Chromosphere on for Proms? For Chromosphere Mine is best at the 11:00 position tuned to the left, should the Proms be tuned to the right? Also, what did you use for the exposure, and did you touch gamma? I know it will be different for my environment and setup but I am just curious from your experience.

Thanks for sharing :)
My Quark favors the right side. My normal setting are the +3 (3 o'clock) position, sometimes +4, I used the same setting for both proms and chromosphere. I have kept Sharpcap 3.0 for solar as I use the gamma rather than changing the Quark. I use a gamma of 1 or 2 for the surface and a gamma of 95 for proms, then I will back the gamma down to 90 or 85 and see if it helps. I keep gain at 50%, with my ASI174 that is gain of 150. I set the exposure to what looks good. I am very visual oriented.

I have tried straight up ( 0 or 12 o'clock) or even into the "-" left side but it looks bad. Sometimes I think about another Quark to see what the settings would be. My Quark is way over on the plus side
Thanks So Much Ben for the detailed information :)

I was using FC but I will try Sharpcap for Solar now and play around with those settings a bit when I do the Proms. And as far as the Quark goes, I guess I should leave it in the 11:OO position where it is stable I think.

Thanks Again :)
my typical setting on the Quark is +3 or +4 at 11 o'clock -1 I get nothing

I will be posting a test I did today of 4 different setting
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Ben Cartwright SASS wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 4:09 pm
TheButcher wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:30 am
Ben Cartwright SASS wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 11:16 pm

My Quark favors the right side. My normal setting are the +3 (3 o'clock) position, sometimes +4, I used the same setting for both proms and chromosphere. I have kept Sharpcap 3.0 for solar as I use the gamma rather than changing the Quark. I use a gamma of 1 or 2 for the surface and a gamma of 95 for proms, then I will back the gamma down to 90 or 85 and see if it helps. I keep gain at 50%, with my ASI174 that is gain of 150. I set the exposure to what looks good. I am very visual oriented.

I have tried straight up ( 0 or 12 o'clock) or even into the "-" left side but it looks bad. Sometimes I think about another Quark to see what the settings would be. My Quark is way over on the plus side
Thanks So Much Ben for the detailed information :)

I was using FC but I will try Sharpcap for Solar now and play around with those settings a bit when I do the Proms. And as far as the Quark goes, I guess I should leave it in the 11:OO position where it is stable I think.

Thanks Again :)
my typical setting on the Quark is +3 or +4 at 11 o'clock -1 I get nothing

I will be posting a test I did today of 4 different setting
Thanks, Jeff and Lowjiber, it's much appreciated :).

I think tomorrow I may have a decent chance for solar to try out your method and to lock on to my correct setting.

Thanks Again :)
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