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I shot my first DSO image yesterday, but its *really* a skyscape shot with a 135 mm lens. I took 60 frames, stacked in Sequator. Processed with Lightroom cc.

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35 second exposure
ISO 800
Rokinon 135mm f2 lens - stepped to f2.8

Problems: I determined that my white balance was wrong - set too cool.. puts too much blue in the shot. (fixed after the fact)
Also I shot in Jpeg, should have shot in raw format. (fixed after)
Focus issues (figured it out - need to use live view and crank open the aperture and ISO)

Anyways, I put it up because its my first effort. This is not easy!! :lol:

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Processing fun...

Playing with colour balance (balancing red). (I'm tossing my hands in the air for the lack of good focus :))

I think the halo in M31, and M110 itself are a bit better in this shot.
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Fracs: Stellarvue 70T f6; SW 120mm Esprit f7; "Mark Mk. II" - 60 mm Tasco f6; C80 frac f 11.4
SCT: C8 Edge f10 or f7 with reducer
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hang on, m31 is andromeda ?? , its so small in a 135mm lense, i thought this target was for dslr cameras/lenses , nice capture btw, i've never seen andromeda/imaged before.

it's not m 110 in the image ?
scopes :gso/bintel f4 12"truss tube, bresser messier ar127s /skywatcher 10'' dob,meade 12'' f10 lx200 sct
cameras : asi 1600mm-c/asi1600mm-c,asi120mc,prostar lp guidecam, nikkon d60, sony a7,asi 290 mm
mounts : eq6 pro/eq8/mesu 200 v2
filters : 2'' astronomik lp/badder lrgb h-a,sII,oIII,h-b,Baader Solar Continuum, chroma 3nm ha,sii,oiii,nii,rgb,lowglow,uv/ir,Thousand Oaks Solar Filter,1.25'' #47 violet,pro planet 742 ir,pro planet 807 ir,pro planet 642 bp ir.
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i zoomed in. i can see the spiral bands i also found m110 next to it ,i have some tips, the focus can be a little tighter and dithering could help with those rgb pixel streaks

i like the second image, it shows more detail,

thanks for sharing
scopes :gso/bintel f4 12"truss tube, bresser messier ar127s /skywatcher 10'' dob,meade 12'' f10 lx200 sct
cameras : asi 1600mm-c/asi1600mm-c,asi120mc,prostar lp guidecam, nikkon d60, sony a7,asi 290 mm
mounts : eq6 pro/eq8/mesu 200 v2
filters : 2'' astronomik lp/badder lrgb h-a,sII,oIII,h-b,Baader Solar Continuum, chroma 3nm ha,sii,oiii,nii,rgb,lowglow,uv/ir,Thousand Oaks Solar Filter,1.25'' #47 violet,pro planet 742 ir,pro planet 807 ir,pro planet 642 bp ir.
extras : skywatcher f4 aplanatic cc, Baader MPCC MKIII Coma Corrector,Orion Field Flattener,zwo 1.25''adc.starlight maxi 2" 9x filter wheel,tele vue 2x barlow .

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yobbo89 wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2019 2:24 pm i zoomed in. i can see the spiral bands i also found m110 next to it ,i have some tips, the focus can be a little tighter and dithering could help with those rgb pixel streaks

i like the second image, it shows more detail,

thanks for sharing

Thanks Yobbo! M31 is tiny indeed in the 135mm. :D The focus needs a lot of help... I think I know how to fix.

So.... how does one attack dithering? I'm usually a pro at dithering, just not in the astrophotographic sense. :lol:

Does Lightroom or Photoshop work in this sense? (raw beginner over here :think: )

Again many thanks,
Ian
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Fracs: Stellarvue 70T f6; SW 120mm Esprit f7; "Mark Mk. II" - 60 mm Tasco f6; C80 frac f 11.4
SCT: C8 Edge f10 or f7 with reducer
Dob: 14.5" homebuilt strut dob (f4.5 ZOC mirror), Nexus II, Moonlite focuser
Mounts - Ioptron Skyguider pro, Astro Physics GTO900
Cameras and lenses - ZWO 2600 mc, 290 mm mini, Canon 60D modded with Rokinon 10mm 2.8; Rokinon 135mm f2

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so dithering consist of moving the telescope/camera a few pixels at a time to a different location in the sky. in doing so, the data where the dead pixels in the camera's fov will be replaced with usable pixels ,with many frames dithered an algorithm is done while stacking to remove the dead pixels (hot and cold pixels) in the image which data is written to them, so those red blue green streaks will disappear in your images, you'll need stacking software to process it out and autoguiding software to dither.

The way to compare it is if you have an eye floater or a smudge on your glasses using peripheral vision and then move your head slightly to another location, the smudge or eye floated doesn't cover the object you were looking at
scopes :gso/bintel f4 12"truss tube, bresser messier ar127s /skywatcher 10'' dob,meade 12'' f10 lx200 sct
cameras : asi 1600mm-c/asi1600mm-c,asi120mc,prostar lp guidecam, nikkon d60, sony a7,asi 290 mm
mounts : eq6 pro/eq8/mesu 200 v2
filters : 2'' astronomik lp/badder lrgb h-a,sII,oIII,h-b,Baader Solar Continuum, chroma 3nm ha,sii,oiii,nii,rgb,lowglow,uv/ir,Thousand Oaks Solar Filter,1.25'' #47 violet,pro planet 742 ir,pro planet 807 ir,pro planet 642 bp ir.
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Thanks Yobbo! :)
So I need a stacking program that prioritizes dithering. Autostackert perhaps...when tucked into Wineskin in my MacBook.
Again, thanks for your insight.
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Fracs: Stellarvue 70T f6; SW 120mm Esprit f7; "Mark Mk. II" - 60 mm Tasco f6; C80 frac f 11.4
SCT: C8 Edge f10 or f7 with reducer
Dob: 14.5" homebuilt strut dob (f4.5 ZOC mirror), Nexus II, Moonlite focuser
Mounts - Ioptron Skyguider pro, Astro Physics GTO900
Cameras and lenses - ZWO 2600 mc, 290 mm mini, Canon 60D modded with Rokinon 10mm 2.8; Rokinon 135mm f2

Skysafari 6 Pro, Astro Pixel Processor, Pixinsight - using Mac tablet and ASIair pro to run the AP rig.

"Mothers! It is there!" - Rafael Gonzales-Acuna, 2018.
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