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Total integration: 240m/4h (90 x 120s + 240 x 15s).

Camera: QH247C (24mp OSC) CMOS cooled to -15 degrees C.
Telescope: Takahashi FC100DF Steinheil fluorite doublet apochromat refractor @ f/4.9.
Reducer: Takahashi FC-35 2".
Mount: Paramount MyT.
Filters: 2" Baader UV-IR-Cut.
Software: TheSkyX Pro, Sharpcap, PixInsight.
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Inline image is uploaded to the forum. Full sized image is here: http://ram.org/images/space/scope/1.7.4 ... s_240m.jpg

The Pleiades (M45) is an open star cluster and corresponding reflection nebulae in the constellation Taurus. It is the first astronomical object I recall in my memory: I remember looking at it through a small courtyard from our first floor home when I was a child---it sparked my fascination with science and astronomy and getting to know the night sky, as well as the associated mythologies different human cultures have created around these objects. The Pleiades was the easiest object to remember, not only due to its brightness but also its distinctive twinkle and the challenge of distinguishing the stars within it.

The nine brightest stars in the Pleiades cluster are named after the Seven Sisters in Greek mythology, along with their parents: Alcyone, Atlas (father), Electra, Maia, Merope, Taygeta, Pleione (mother), Celaeno, and Sterope/Asterope. The cluster however contains more than one thousand confirmed members, fourteen of which can apparently be distinguished by the naked eye. Unlike the typical emission nebula I image, all the light is due to reflection of blue light from the hot young stars on the dust in the interstellar medium - there is no ionising radiation and therefore it is not a narrowband composition but reflects largely what the sensor has captured. The Merope and Maia nebulae are the major ones in this star cluster.

The dust responsible for the nebulosity is not uniformly distributed, and is concentrated in two layers. These layers may have been formed by deceleration due to radiation pressure as the dust has moved towards the stars, making them appear as though waves of hair are flowing the stars and giving us a sight to behold through powerful telescopes or ordinary imaging equipment. If you look closely you can see the waviness of the dust lanes observable to the very edges of the blue nebulae.

The 110 million year old cluster is about eight light years across and about 136 parsecs away, making it one of the nearest star clusters to us. It is expected to disperse within the next 250 million years.

Here are a couple of other processing attempts, so you can see that no matter what I do, the overall result looks very similar. The second used a very different processing pathway, which brings out the blues more and the last one is a version with less data but also sharper/smaller stars. But I like my final version above since it brings out some of the dust lanes (which the first image below does as well) and also shows how much further out the reflection nebulae extend.

https://www.astrobin.com/421142/B/
https://www.astrobin.com/421142/C/

I was going to keep collecting data on this but for now decided to focus on other targets if the sky clears up since it's full moon out and I think this camera works best when it is fully dark out and I want to swap the cameras between my two scopes to do something different.

As always, thanks for looking!

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Hi a very nice set of images.
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I definitely had to check out the FULL size image for this one. A really beauty.

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Nice image. I like all the versions (each has their own qualities). I think I like the last one best.
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Thanks jmt92130, Yep, looks like there are some good eyeballs here and elsewhere - a few people pointed out they liked (C) which contains the cleanest data set of the three - done under dark skies. All the others had some frames where the moon was up. I just rounded out to 3 hours for the 2 min exposures but this was a nice case of demonstrating that sometimes less is more.

I really dislike throwing out data, even bad data since it feels like there's something "there" but when you have very good data, even a few frames of noisier data only makes it works. I guess that's the nature of stacking - every single frame will add noise (or stray light) to the mix and it's a matter of how much.

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Very nice, a challenging target, especially if one has a bit of lp, you did well, did you use calibration frames?
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Thanks! Yep, all the frames are dark subtracted.

I think more time on this target may be worth it but perhaps with my other scope with a wider field to get some of the dust and then I could add this data enough for the core. I seem to be doing that a lot these days...

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Nice images Ram - I also like the third one. It has less star bloating, and, a bit more detail in the beautiful blue nebulosity surrounding the stars.

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