Horsehead and Flame Nebula - My Version
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Hello Jim. Both images are fantastic. I kind of like the first version a little more, as the contrast is deeper and the colors are a little more vivid. However, both are great works from you. Thanks for sharing these with us Jim, and congratulations on winning the TSS APOD Award today.
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Re: Horsehead and Flame Nebula - My Version
This is also how I see it with the additional remark that ionization fronts look nicely crisper in the first version. Finding a way to combine the virtues of both processes would make them even more breathtaking.bobharmony wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:50 am That is some very nice data, Jim, and a pair of fine processes. To me there are aspects of both that I like. In the first runthrough the reflection nebulae seem to come out better than the PI version. On the other hand the detail of the Flame and the vibrance of the Ha around the Horsehead is fabulous in the PI result. It is always difficult to make these processing choices, now if there was a way to mash them together!
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Congrats on the TSS APOD award.
I definitely like the second one better. So much more vivid. Beautiful capture.
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I definitely like the second one better. So much more vivid. Beautiful capture.
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Both are Really Excellent Jim and Congrats on the APOD !
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Jim,
Okay, to start with "hdrmultiscaletransform" is one darn long word... no wonder Pixinsight has a somewhat difficult learning curve...
Both photos are very pleasing to look at and I find things I like in both of them, just as others do.
Congratulations on a well deservedAPOD !!
This is one of my bucket list images to capture as soon as I get to use my newly acquired imaging telescope and camera set up.
Thank you for sharing these photos.
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Okay, to start with "hdrmultiscaletransform" is one darn long word... no wonder Pixinsight has a somewhat difficult learning curve...
Both photos are very pleasing to look at and I find things I like in both of them, just as others do.
Congratulations on a well deserved
This is one of my bucket list images to capture as soon as I get to use my newly acquired imaging telescope and camera set up.
Thank you for sharing these photos.
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Hi Joe, thank you. I like the second too.BABOafrica wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:41 pm Congrats on the TSS APOD award.
I definitely like the second one better. So much more vivid. Beautiful capture.
BABO
Lots of nice comments on the first though and that is great since it is my image too!
Much appreciated Butcher!
Kerry C. wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:23 pm Jim,
Okay, to start with "hdrmultiscaletransform" is one darn long word... no wonder Pixinsight has a somewhat difficult learning curve...
Both photos are very pleasing to look at and I find things I like in both of them, just as others do.
Congratulations on a well deserved APOD!!
This is one of my bucket list images to capture as soon as I get to use my newly acquired imaging telescope and camera set up.
Thank you for sharing these photos.
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As not-AF commented, you might be able to get the best of both with a re-pro.Juno16 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:13 pmHi Joe, thank you. I like the second too.BABOafrica wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:41 pm Congrats on the TSS APOD award.
I definitely like the second one better. So much more vivid. Beautiful capture.
BABO
Lots of nice comments on the first though and that is great since it is my image too!
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I too like both. That's some pretty good color. Most of the images I've seen with the L-Enhance or L-Extreme filters make the Flame appear too red. I like it bright orange. You've done a nice job with it. Congrats on your APOD !
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BABOafrica wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:04 pm
As not-AF commented, you might be able to get the best of both with a re-pro.
BABO
I agree with you both. On a steep learning curve right now with
Hi Larry,Larry 1969 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:05 pm I too like both. That's some pretty good color. Most of the images I've seen with the L-Enhance or L-Extreme filters make the Flame appear too red. I like it bright orange. You've done a nice job with it. Congrats on your APOD!
Larry
I must admit, after the
Some like the reddish flame in the first process though. Everyone has a slight difference in taste and that is a good thing!
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Great images Jim. I like the second process best. Great color. Congrats on the APOD .
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