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I added more data to my mosaic of the Veil Nebula.

30 - 5 minutes subs


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That's really gorgeous Steve. Great job on the mosaic.

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well done !,a monster of a mosiac, 10-15 panels ?

there are gradiants through out each frame ? what is your bortle zone ? top right hand corner i believe might need more signal .

about that top right hand frame, i seem to have problems with doing mosiacs that run pass the target aswell, ie imaging a corner that has less nebulosty/signal , there might be another proccessing proccedure to help or you might just need more integration ,for now i've given up on doing large mosiacs (6-9 panels) because when i get to the outer zone of my target with no nebulosity i get a bad mosiac merges towards the edge like your top right hand corner frame .

I assume you're using 6-7 nm filters ? 3nm is very rewarding but very pricey , it makes lp graidiants a thing of the pass, well significantly reduces it beyond your standard narrowband filters in heavy lp .

other then the few artifacts/problems , you have a superb merg and a great image ,seamless, good star alighnment , a nice veil .
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yobbo89 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:18 pm well done !,a monster of a mosiac, 10-15 panels ?

there are gradiants through out each frame ? what is your bortle zone ? top right hand corner i believe might need more signal .

about that top right hand frame, i seem to have problems with doing mosiacs that run pass the target aswell, ie imaging a corner that has less nebulosty/signal , there might be another proccessing proccedure to help or you might just need more integration ,for now i've given up on doing large mosiacs (6-9 panels) because when i get to the outer zone of my target with no nebulosity i get a bad mosiac merges towards the edge like your top right hand corner frame .

I assume you're using 6-7 nm filters ? 3nm is very rewarding but very pricey , it makes lp graidiants a thing of the pass, well significantly reduces it beyond your standard narrowband filters in heavy lp .

other then the few artifacts/problems , you have a superb merg and a great image ,seamless, good star alighnment , a nice veil .
Thanks yobbo... it's very much a work in progress and learning from failure experience. The above mosaic is from 5 separate photos, taken across a few month's time. My FOV rotation changed during that time with the addition of a filter tray, then filter wheel and finally a reducer. This was all done with a OSC ASI533 using the L-enhance filter, the L-Pro does not bring out the blues near as much... it's like a magical photo accumulator. With no filter and 5 minutes, I could barely tell something was there.

Aligning for a proper mosaic isn't as simple as typing in a DSO object and software centers it automatically during my unattended sessions. The Veil is coming up earlier and from behind a big tree to the point where I can stay awake to center the object properly.

Still trying to decide on the narrow band filters that I will use with the ASI1600 and doing more calibrated frame integration. Pricey is right for those narrowband filters. I put off the vinyl siding for the Obs and got the 1600MM instead and blew my budget there. Now for the siding, then the filters and doing some channel separation from the two filters I have combined them into something.

While processing is fun, I kind of blast thru it much quicker than I should. I would like to start all over while closing watch rotation, exposure time and editing processes being the same. I am lucky and quite satisfied to have something this nice come out of my process.
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STEVE333 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:09 pm That's really gorgeous Steve. Great job on the mosaic.

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Thanks Steve... I am learning from the masters, like yourself and have a long ways to go.

I need to improve my organizational skills for all of the data I am collecting and will return to it and start over. Many of these captures I didn't even use the SubframeSelector and toss the bad ones out until recently. Dithering wasn't done on most of them either and zero calibration frames. Parts of this mosaic was using the 1600MM as a luminance layer and why the nebulosity is so uneven.
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Superb, Mac. A super-duper project with super-duper results. To my untrained eye it appears to be very well executed. A lot of "moving parts", too. I don't think I could handle all the various pieces and parts which go into a mosaic like this.

What eye-candy! Poster material fer sure.
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Mac wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:59 pm
yobbo89 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:18 pm well done !,a monster of a mosiac, 10-15 panels ?

there are gradiants through out each frame ? what is your bortle zone ? top right hand corner i believe might need more signal .

about that top right hand frame, i seem to have problems with doing mosiacs that run pass the target aswell, ie imaging a corner that has less nebulosty/signal , there might be another proccessing proccedure to help or you might just need more integration ,for now i've given up on doing large mosiacs (6-9 panels) because when i get to the outer zone of my target with no nebulosity i get a bad mosiac merges towards the edge like your top right hand corner frame .

I assume you're using 6-7 nm filters ? 3nm is very rewarding but very pricey , it makes lp graidiants a thing of the pass, well significantly reduces it beyond your standard narrowband filters in heavy lp .

other then the few artifacts/problems , you have a superb merg and a great image ,seamless, good star alighnment , a nice veil .
This was all done with a OSC ASI533 using the L-enhance filter,
ohh wow ! i'm very suprised with the results from your osc and the l-enhance filter ! looking forward to your mono narrowband in the future !
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Mac wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:59 pm
yobbo89 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:18 pm well done !,a monster of a mosiac, 10-15 panels ?

there are gradiants through out each frame ? what is your bortle zone ? top right hand corner i believe might need more signal .

about that top right hand frame, i seem to have problems with doing mosiacs that run pass the target aswell, ie imaging a corner that has less nebulosty/signal , there might be another proccessing proccedure to help or you might just need more integration ,for now i've given up on doing large mosiacs (6-9 panels) because when i get to the outer zone of my target with no nebulosity i get a bad mosiac merges towards the edge like your top right hand corner frame .

I assume you're using 6-7 nm filters ? 3nm is very rewarding but very pricey , it makes lp graidiants a thing of the pass, well significantly reduces it beyond your standard narrowband filters in heavy lp .

other then the few artifacts/problems , you have a superb merg and a great image ,seamless, good star alighnment , a nice veil .

Aligning for a proper mosaic isn't as simple as typing in a DSO object and software centers it automatically during my unattended sessions.

what imaging software are you using ? i use sgp and it is ,once you work it out , a very easy to use tool. i just search my target ,i type in how many mosiac panels i want, add , then put my intergation info in and off i go .
scopes :gso/bintel f4 12"truss tube, bresser messier ar127s /skywatcher 10'' dob,meade 12'' f10 lx200 sct
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mounts : eq6 pro/eq8/mesu 200 v2
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I didn't realize that was a 5-panel mosaic! Really nice job and perseverance Steve. I'm especially impressed considering all the changes in your equipment while capturing this. You have more "guts" than I do tackling such a project.

Cheers,

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yobbo89 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:30 pm
what imaging software are you using ? i use sgp and it is ,once you work it out , a very easy to use tool. i just search my target ,i type in how many mosiac panels i want, add , then put my intergation info in and off i go .
I am using KStars/EKOS on Raspberry Pi4. There are mosaic features in the software but I have yet to master it.
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Hankmeister3 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:14 pm Superb, Mac. A super-duper project with super-duper results. To my untrained eye it appears to be very well executed. A lot of "moving parts", too. I don't think I could handle all the various pieces and parts which go into a mosaic like this.

What eye-candy! Poster material fer sure.
Thanks Henry
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Beautiful seamless mosaic Steve! Very nice detail and colors.
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That definitely counts for a VEIL to end all VEILS project. Coming along quite nicely, to put it mildly.

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