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For many years I used a 10 inch Skywatcher as my primary telescope, a couple of years back I purchased a ES80ed-cf refractor to do most of my imaging on.

Yesterday I finally got around to 'unpacking' the newt from the stuff I used to pack it with when we move almost 2 years ago! I decided I shouldn't let it just sit any longer. I had to do some changes to the configuration I had it in when it was on the pier at my old place. Added the new guidescope and configured the dovetail to accept my minicomputer and autofocuser hardware. The mirror is in pretty good shape considering it's over 10 years old!!! I will pull it out and give it a 'bath' but other than that I'm almost ready to go.

I'm looking forward to capturing some of the smaller targets that are difficult with the 80 ed.
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Good for you. I need to resume my remodeling of my Z12. I'm "feeling guilty" about it. ;)
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And here I thought you were going to do some visual! :)

But, sounds like it will come in handy with imaging some of the challenge objects that are a wee bit smaller.
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Very nice,upload some pics when you get a chance :)
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Newts get fun at 10" :)
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Have fun with the telescope Gordon :)
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Just a quick update on my progress.

With arthritis in my back, I can't stand for long periods of time, so this project is taking a bit longer than I would like it to. A few things I have discovered. The 10 Inch is HEAVY!!!

I had forgotten my technique for getting the scope on the mount. I tried to lift the scope, with the camera, dovetail rings, minicomputer, focuser box etc etc installed, on to the mount. Came too close to dropping it. Then I remembered (another old age issue) that I always installed the dovetail and accessories on the mount first then just placed the tube in the rings last. (much easier!!!).

Then I was testing the focuser and it wasn't working. I double-checked the wiring again and didn't see an issue. So I took everything off the mount, I then opened the dovetail rings and removed the tube to try to get better access to the connections. During this balancing act on my workbench, the dove tail and rings slipped, and I almost dropped everything again. I got the problem fixed, the wiring was wrong in my 'extension' cable.

The big problem with this whole change is the fact that the ED80 is much smaller, and I had built everything around it. Now with the Newt everything is in a different place and much further away from the mini computer, so I've had to do quite a bit of cable "extending". Once I'm done it should work fine, and I will be able to switch back and forth pretty easy.

I got the mirrors cleaned up. I found a dead cricket inside the scope that got moved from our old house.

If everything goes right I should have it done today. Then we wait for the overcast to clear out for the "first light" from Arizona!
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Scopes: Explore Scientific ED80CF, Skywatcher 200 Quattro Imaging Newt, SeeStar S50 for EAA.
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Gordon,
Now you're making me feel lazy! Good work and good luck. Be careful, of course!
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Good idea Gordon! For galaxies and other smaller targets a 10" Newt is great. Not sure if it's an astrograph or visual but a Newt astrograph with a good coma corrector can be an amazing tool for astrophotography. With my 12" Newt astrograph the Paracorr 2 produces super round stars all the way into the corners and I'm now quite happy with the choice (though I have to improve the mount mechanics a bit). The Paracorr 2 CC is not cheap (and I have a Baader MPCC Mk III like yours) but, reading up on performance, I decided to get the Paracorr 2. No regrets at all. I haven't plugged the Baader in yet to see the difference, I may do it some time.
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Yay Gordon,

I am in the same situation. I will follow your lead by unpacking my 8" Dob starting next week.
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SkyHiker wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 7:17 pm Good idea Gordon! For galaxies and other smaller targets a 10" Newt is great. Not sure if it's an astrograph or visual but a Newt astrograph with a good coma corrector can be an amazing tool for astrophotography. With my 12" Newt astrograph the Paracorr 2 produces super round stars all the way into the corners and I'm now quite happy with the choice (though I have to improve the mount mechanics a bit). The Paracorr 2 CC is not cheap (and I have a Baader MPCC Mk III like yours) but, reading up on performance, I decided to get the Paracorr 2. No regrets at all. I haven't plugged the Baader in yet to see the difference, I may do it some time.
It's not an astrograph, but I have used it for AP for quite a few years before I got the 80 ED refractor. I'm making progress, still fighting with the auto focuser. Hopefully I can get that dialed in today.
Gordon
Scopes: Explore Scientific ED80CF, Skywatcher 200 Quattro Imaging Newt, SeeStar S50 for EAA.
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Well,

I finally got everything dialed in. Now we wait on clear sky.

The monster is alive!
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Gordon wrote: Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:25 pm Well, I finally got everything dialed in. Now we wait on clear sky. The monster is alive!
So... what happened?

(A thousand years ago, my wife and I had been married about a year and were attending New Mexico State University and a little theater there ran classic movies - and served a fascinating array of chili pepper and curried popcorns. Anyway, one of the movies was Colossus: The Forbin Project. Competing USSR and USA supercomputers conspire to unite and take over the world. Dr. Forbin objects. The people will resist! The machine replies, "They will learn to love me." End of show. No credits. Just a white screen. We sat there stunned. After some long minutes someone said, "Colossus is Greek for "Leaves you hanging, folks!")

And so you have. What happened next?
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Good luck I hope it works fine , I must admit that these big news on EQ mounts are not my cup of tea
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I've had great success with getting everything back up and running. Had a couple great nights, but it's "monsoon season" now so rain and clouds most everyday. I need to so a couple software updates before the next use, but other than that we are up and running.
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Scopes: Explore Scientific ED80CF, Skywatcher 200 Quattro Imaging Newt, SeeStar S50 for EAA.
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Gordon wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 4:46 pm I've had great success with getting everything back up and running. Had a couple great nights, but it's "monsoon season" now so rain and clouds most everyday. I need to so a couple software updates before the next use, but other than that we are up and running.
Good deal Gordon. Now you can handle the smaller targets I throw into the monthly DSO challenge. :)
Alan

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Mounts: ES Twilight-II and Twilight-I
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ES 82° 18mm || Pentax XW 70° 10mm, 7mm and 5mm || barlows
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kt4hx wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 4:52 pm
Good deal Gordon. Now you can handle the smaller targets I throw into the monthly DSO challenge. :)
That was the plan all along! The ED80 does great for the big stuff but getting detail on the smaller stuff is difficult. Nice thing is the 'change over' from one scope to another is pretty easy now.
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Scopes: Explore Scientific ED80CF, Skywatcher 200 Quattro Imaging Newt, SeeStar S50 for EAA.
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I have finally accomplished the same digging out task. Let the collimation begin.

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10" on an Atlas, yep that's a big boy! :lol:
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