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06/15/2024

Location: Anza Observatory, Bortle 4.

Equipment: Celestron 14” EdgeHD SCT with 0.7x reducer, on Celestron CGE Pro mount.

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Pentax XW 20mm, 70 deg (137x, 2.6 mm exit pupil, 0.51deg/31’ TFV).
Pentax XW 10mm, 70 deg (274x, 1.3mm exit pupil, 16’ TFV).
Pentax XW 7mm, 70 deg (391x, 0.9mm exit pupil, 11’ TFV).

Last Friday a bright Moon was dominating the evening sky. Because of that I have opted for the morning session instead. Caught a few hours of sleep and woke up past midnight to the late summer sky. Pegasus, Aquarius and Capricorn were rising in the east, while Sagittarius and Scorpio were at their highest in the south, and the Moon was setting down in the west. I have timed it so I could pursue asteroids in those constellations. Below is my haul for the night.

01:00. ASTEROIDS

(169) Zelia - mag 12.1 asteroid in Sagittarius (137x).
(245) Vera – mag 12.9 asteroid in Capricorn (137x).
(446) Aeternitas – mag 12.7 asteroid in Sagittarius (137x).
(550) Senta – mag 12.1 asteroid in Sagittarius (76x).

(579) Sidonia – mag 12.5 asteroid in Capricorn (137x).
(702) Alauda – mag 12.7 asteroid in Aquarius (137x).
(74) Galatea – mag 13.1 asteroid in Capricorn (137x).
(76) Freia – mag 14.2 asteroid in Aquarius (137x).

(104) Klymene – mag 14.2 asteroid in Capricorn (137x).
(150) Nuwa – mag 13.5 asteroid in Aquarius (137x).
(151) Abundantia – mag 13.0 asteroid in Sagittarius (137x).
(152) Atala – mag 13.9 asteroid in Microscopium (137x).

(158) Koronis – mag 14.2 asteroid in Capricorn (137x).
(168) Sibylla – mag 13.4 asteroid in Sagittarius (137x).
(176) Iduna - mag 13.8 asteroid I Pegasus (137x).
(177) Irma – mag 13.9 asteroid in Capricorn (137x).

This pursuit of the space rocks took me the whole night, but in the process I have also revisited a few of old friends and took breaks for other targets.

01:29 Watched moonset. Don’t care for the bright Moon, but love watching moonsets. :D

M75 – globular cluster in Sagittarius and M72 - globular cluster in Aquarius. For both the best views were achieved using Pentax XW 10mm EP (274x). Both were larger than what I remember seeing in smaller scopes and enriched in details. They extended in size considerably when observed with averted vision. I don’t remember such a drastic effect of AV with smaller apertures. They were large, bright, irregular in shape with darker bands and brighter areas but, surprisingly, mostly unresolved. Just a few stars visible in the dimmer portions.

PGC 64161 (mag 13.9, size 1.4’ x 0.6’) – the only galaxy of the night. Was passing by chasing asteroids. A very faint oval detected with AV by moving EP (274x).

The Saturn Nebula (NGC 7009, mag 8.3, size 28”, SB 6.4) – such a beauty! Bright light blue ellipse with oval dark hole in the middle (391x). Pretty much resembled the Saturn rings with Saturn globe removed. Except Saturn rings are yellowish and sharp and Saturn Nebula had fuzzy and knotty appearance and was a color of midday blue sky. I love the colors 14” aperture brings in the planetary nebulae! :D

PLANETS

Saturn – mag 1.1 planet in Aquarius. Why not compare the view of the Saturn Nebula to the real thing? That was my first view of the season and what a difference from last year! Such a sharp edge-on view of the rings. The rings were well resolved even across the globe but very narrow and getting narrower to the sharp points on the sides. The rings shadow was a thin, black, sharp straight line across the globe and above it was another thing grayish line of the North Equatorial belt. (274x).

Neptune – mag 7.9 planet in Pisces. Easily resolved little greenish disk with no details (274x). SkySafari has informed me that Nereid, mag 19.5 moon of Neptune is nearby. Good to know! :lol:

Mars – mag 1.0 planet in Aries. Mars has just cleared the horizon, but was unmistakably red, even naked eye. The scope has resolved prismatic little disk. It was too low to the horizon and too far from the opposition (which is coming in Jan 2025) to expect any details visible.

04:15 Predawn sky started to brighten when I have finished my session. Morning sessions are harder to pull but somehow turn out a bit more special and enjoyable.
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Binos: APM: 100-90 APO; Canon: IS 15x50; Orion: Binoviewer, LG II 15x70, WV 10x50, Nikon: AE 16x50, 10x50, 8x40.
EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Delos, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV, Celestron: X-Cel LX.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S; Astronomik: UHC.
Solar: HA: Lunt 50mm double-stack, W/L: Meade Herschel wedge.

Observing: DSOs: 3494 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2349), Doubles: 2893, Comets: 38, Asteroids: 336
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A very fine report and you certainly nailed down those asteroids my friend! Only one galaxy is indeed a rarity for you. :icon-smile:

Regarding PGC 64161 (MCG -4-47-10 or ESO 527 11), I suspect you meant a mag of 13.9 rather than 3.9! :icon-smile:

As for Neptune, forget Nereid when Triton at mag 13.54 is much more manageable! :lol:

Anyway, nicely done my friend and certainly a VROD outing in anyone's book.
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Yes, quite the haul of "space rocks", Andrey! I'll second the VROD nomination.

I've developed a kinship with the Moon of late. Really enjoy picking out finer details, and observing over the course of a session how the changing sunlight brings out different perspectives.

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Thanks for your nice report and the observation of the planets, Saturn in particular!
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VROD winner of the day, as nominated!

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Great report. I love watching moonsets as well.
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kt4hx wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 2:55 am A very fine report and you certainly nailed down those asteroids my friend! Only one galaxy is indeed a rarity for you. :icon-smile:

Regarding PGC 64161 (MCG -4-47-10 or ESO 527 11), I suspect you meant a mag of 13.9 rather than 3.9! :icon-smile:

As for Neptune, forget Nereid when Triton at mag 13.54 is much more manageable! :lol:

Anyway, nicely done my friend and certainly a VROD outing in anyone's book.
Thanks Alan! And thanks for catching the typo. 3.9 mag galaxy, that would be quite nice! :D
Unitron48 wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 11:12 am Yes, quite the haul of "space rocks", Andrey! I'll second the VROD nomination.

I've developed a kinship with the Moon of late. Really enjoy picking out finer details, and observing over the course of a session how the changing sunlight brings out different perspectives.

Dave
Thanks Dave! I agree, while it's wreaking havoc on DSO observing the Moon is fascinating target and LP-friendly to. My favorite way to observe it is with binoviewers.
John Baars wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 1:32 pm Thanks for your nice report and the observation of the planets, Saturn in particular!
Thanks John! It has been quite a while since we saw it last time, so the edge-on look is refreshing. We may even get to see a Saturn moon transit.
helicon wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 2:28 pm VROD winner of the day, as nominated!

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EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Delos, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV, Celestron: X-Cel LX.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S; Astronomik: UHC.
Solar: HA: Lunt 50mm double-stack, W/L: Meade Herschel wedge.

Observing: DSOs: 3494 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2349), Doubles: 2893, Comets: 38, Asteroids: 336
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AstroBee wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 7:05 pm Great report. I love watching moonsets as well.
Thanks Greg! And don't forget moonrises to. Although from DSO observer perspective moonsets bring much more cheers. :D
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Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S; Astronomik: UHC.
Solar: HA: Lunt 50mm double-stack, W/L: Meade Herschel wedge.

Observing: DSOs: 3494 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2349), Doubles: 2893, Comets: 38, Asteroids: 336
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Congratulations on the VROD!
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a reading as informative and interesting as always , congratulations on the vrod,
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Thanks John and Jean-Yves!
Scopes: Stellarvue: SV102ED; Celestron: 14" & 9.25" EdgeHD, 8" SCT, 150ST, Onyx 80ED; iOptron: Hankmeister 6" Mak; SW: 7" Mak; Meade: 80ST.
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EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Delos, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV, Celestron: X-Cel LX.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S; Astronomik: UHC.
Solar: HA: Lunt 50mm double-stack, W/L: Meade Herschel wedge.

Observing: DSOs: 3494 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2349), Doubles: 2893, Comets: 38, Asteroids: 336
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I am living vicariously through your reports so keep it up.
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Thanks Mike!
Scopes: Stellarvue: SV102ED; Celestron: 14" & 9.25" EdgeHD, 8" SCT, 150ST, Onyx 80ED; iOptron: Hankmeister 6" Mak; SW: 7" Mak; Meade: 80ST.
Mounts: Celestron: CGE Pro. SW: SkyTee2, AzGTi; iOptron: AZMP; ES: Twilight I; Bresser: EXOS2; UA: MicroStar.
Binos: APM: 100-90 APO; Canon: IS 15x50; Orion: Binoviewer, LG II 15x70, WV 10x50, Nikon: AE 16x50, 10x50, 8x40.
EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Delos, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV, Celestron: X-Cel LX.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S; Astronomik: UHC.
Solar: HA: Lunt 50mm double-stack, W/L: Meade Herschel wedge.

Observing: DSOs: 3494 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2349), Doubles: 2893, Comets: 38, Asteroids: 336
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That's a nice report. Thank you.
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