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11/5/2021

Location: home, Bortle 6.0
Equipment: Stelarvue 102ED on SW AZGti mount, TV Delites set.

Altair Astro Positive Lock 2” Prism test.

I have picked this prism last year but never put it through a thorough testing. Had to ship it from UK since it is not available in US. The prism is built like a tank. Fit and finishes look very similar to Baader Click Lock (with similar locking mechanism). Albeit Baader Click Lock is a dielectric mirror diagonal.
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Started with Jupiter with SV102ED/TV Delite 3mm (238x). At the moments of better seeing Jupiter belts were sharp with fine details even without filters. Not a hint of CA on Jupiter! Saturn was soft (due to poor seeing). Somehow this year I never managed to catch a nice sharp view of Saturn.

The rest of the session was devoted to Aquarius doubles. There were some though splits, and the diagonal performed admirably. What sold me was STF 2752 split (detailed below), where I have barlowed TV Delite 5mm with Baader Q 2.25x barlow for whooping 322x (0.3mm exit pupil) and yet got very sharp well defined airy disks for both components.

When splitting doubles I typically use entire EP set to find lowest splitable power. This evening however was very humid. Fog was forming in the valley below (our house sits on top of the hill) and all equipment was getting wet. My extra-long home-made dew shield protected SV102ED quite well, but to prevent EPs from fogging I have mostly used just three EPs: TV Delite 18.2mm (39x), 11mm (65x) and 5mm (143x). One EP in the diagonal, one in each pocket of the jacket :D; just occasionally pulling TV Delite 3mm (238x) out of the EP case.

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STF 2706 AB – 8.7, 10.8, 11.2”, orange, blue – nice colors (65x).

HDS 2970 – 9.0, 10, 15.2”, yellow, orange (39x).

STF 2752 AB – 7.3, 10, 3.5”, yellow, white. Went through my EP set down to 3mm and could not confirm the secondary. Decided to push a bit more barlowing TV Delite 5mm with Baader Q 2.25x barlow for 2.2mm effective FL (322x) and to my surprise and delight picked a steady and sharp grayish dot next to the brighter yellow prime. This is my 1500th double, good one to! :D

BU 473 AB – 8.9, 10, 1.9” – FAIL – I guess this is a bit too much for 4” frac.

STF 2770 – 7.6, 10.8, 7.5”, golden, blue – nice colors (65x).

STF 2768 – 7.8, 10.5, 7.9”, yellow, blue. (143x).

STF 2775 – 7.5, 10.4, 11.1, 11.5, 10.5, ac21.4”, ad170.2”, de74.5”, af184.7”, white, 4x silver (143x). I would not call it a beautiful system, but I like to look at stars :), and systems like this provide a good challenge identifying components by distance, PA and magnitude. Some of the components were also at the limit of detection for the sky conditions on that night, which added another difficulty level. On a good night 4” scope can push below mag 12. The system looks optical, but apparently AC and DE are physical pairs.

STF 2776 – 8.3, 9.9, 10.9, ab83.5”, bc5.9”, yellow, white, white. AB were wide apart at 39x, BC split required 143x.

STF 2778 AB – 8.7, 10.9, 18.3”, white, gray. Secondary was detected with averted vision at 143x.

STF 2781 – 8.7, 8.9, 2.7”, white pair – clean tight split at 143x.

BU 161 – 8.2, 10.3, 11.6, ab100.7”, bc8.2”, yellow, 2x white. AB is a wide pair at low power. AC was a challenge to split. C was detected with averted vision at 238x.

BU 165 – 8.6, 10.6, 5.4”, yellow, gray. B detected with averted vision at 238x.

HJ 3039 – 8.8, 10.1, 11.7”, 2x white (65x).

At 22:30 the fog started moving up the hill which ended my session.
Scopes: Stellarvue: SV102ED; Celestron: 9.25" EdgeHD, 8" SCT, 150ST, Onyx 80ED; iOptron: Hankmeister 6" Mak; SW: 7" Mak; Meade: 80ST.
Mounts: SW: SkyTee2, AzGTi; iOptron: AZMP; ES: Twilight I; Bresser: EXOS2; UA: MicroStar.
Binos: APM: 100-90 APO; Canon: IS 15x50; Orion: Binoviewer, LG II 15x70, WV 10x50, Nikon: AE 16x50, 10x50, 8x40.
EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.
Solar: HA: Lunt 50mm single stack, W/L: Meade Herschel wedge.

Observing: DSOs: 3106 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2180, S110: 77). Doubles: 2437, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 257
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Very nice session Andrey !
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Great session Andrey! I have logged some of those in Aquarius. My logs are more haphazard, need organizing, but I suspect I am at over 2,000 different doubles. I am attempting to eventually observe every catalogued double my 6" f/8 apo scope can resolve at this location. Winter observing here is very sporadic. Your location is much better in winter.
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Excellent Andrey. You had a wonderful session of seeing double! Glad to see you getting out and hope the upcoming winter is conducive for you to get out a lot.

Edit: And congrats on the VROD Andrey!
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Great report Andrey and congrats on the VROD for your sojourns in Aquarius the water bearer!
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Hi Andrey. A very nice report using the Stelarvue 102ED and the new Altair Astro Positive Lock 2” Prism Diagonal. And you scored a lot of nice doubles in your session with this combination. Thanks for your report with excellent descriptions Andrey and congratulations on receiving the TSS VROD Award today.
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John Donne wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 2:45 am Very nice session Andrey !
Thank you 👍👍👍
Thanks Mark! Next time I am doing doubles I will pull out the iOptron rumak for sure. :)
John Fitzgerald wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 3:37 am Great session Andrey! I have logged some of those in Aquarius. My logs are more haphazard, need organizing, but I suspect I am at over 2,000 different doubles. I am attempting to eventually observe every catalogued double my 6" f/8 apo scope can resolve at this location. Winter observing here is very sporadic. Your location is much better in winter.
Thanks John! Over 2000 - that's impressive! When you go for something ambitious like that you do need a well organized log. After first 100 it is hard to keep track of what you already observe. :D
kt4hx wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 4:14 am Excellent Andrey. You had a wonderful session of seeing double! Glad to see you getting out and hope the upcoming winter is conducive for you to get out a lot.

Edit: And congrats on the VROD Andrey!
Thanks Alan! I have been slacking off last winter, my resolution is to be more productive this one. :)
helicon wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 4:31 pm Great report Andrey and congrats on the VROD for your sojourns in Aquarius the water bearer!
Thanks Michael! Always an honor!
Scopes: Stellarvue: SV102ED; Celestron: 9.25" EdgeHD, 8" SCT, 150ST, Onyx 80ED; iOptron: Hankmeister 6" Mak; SW: 7" Mak; Meade: 80ST.
Mounts: SW: SkyTee2, AzGTi; iOptron: AZMP; ES: Twilight I; Bresser: EXOS2; UA: MicroStar.
Binos: APM: 100-90 APO; Canon: IS 15x50; Orion: Binoviewer, LG II 15x70, WV 10x50, Nikon: AE 16x50, 10x50, 8x40.
EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.
Solar: HA: Lunt 50mm single stack, W/L: Meade Herschel wedge.

Observing: DSOs: 3106 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2180, S110: 77). Doubles: 2437, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 257
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Makuser wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 4:50 pm Hi Andrey. A very nice report using the Stelarvue 102ED and the new Altair Astro Positive Lock 2” Prism Diagonal. And you scored a lot of nice doubles in your session with this combination. Thanks for your report with excellent descriptions Andrey and congratulations on receiving the TSS VROD Award today.
Thanks Marshall! Glad you enjoyed reading it.
Scopes: Stellarvue: SV102ED; Celestron: 9.25" EdgeHD, 8" SCT, 150ST, Onyx 80ED; iOptron: Hankmeister 6" Mak; SW: 7" Mak; Meade: 80ST.
Mounts: SW: SkyTee2, AzGTi; iOptron: AZMP; ES: Twilight I; Bresser: EXOS2; UA: MicroStar.
Binos: APM: 100-90 APO; Canon: IS 15x50; Orion: Binoviewer, LG II 15x70, WV 10x50, Nikon: AE 16x50, 10x50, 8x40.
EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.
Solar: HA: Lunt 50mm single stack, W/L: Meade Herschel wedge.

Observing: DSOs: 3106 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2180, S110: 77). Doubles: 2437, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 257
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Congratulations on your 1500th double star! Quite an achievement.. I'll take my hat for it!
And the VROD of course! And not to forget 2752.
Is there a way you register all those doubles for yourself? By RA for instance, constellation or STF / other cataloque numbers? 1500 is quite a number..!
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John Baars wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 5:50 pm Congratulations on your 1500th double star! Quite an achievement.. I'll take my hat for it!
And the VROD of course! And not to forget 2752.
Is there a way you register all those doubles for yourself? By RA for instance, constellation or STF / other cataloque numbers? 1500 is quite a number..!
Thanks John! For both DSOs and doubles I use Excel spreadsheets to keep my log, where I list for each entry coordinates, properties, observing details and comments. Here is an example. Click to extend.
double log.jpg
The log is sortable and searchable.
Scopes: Stellarvue: SV102ED; Celestron: 9.25" EdgeHD, 8" SCT, 150ST, Onyx 80ED; iOptron: Hankmeister 6" Mak; SW: 7" Mak; Meade: 80ST.
Mounts: SW: SkyTee2, AzGTi; iOptron: AZMP; ES: Twilight I; Bresser: EXOS2; UA: MicroStar.
Binos: APM: 100-90 APO; Canon: IS 15x50; Orion: Binoviewer, LG II 15x70, WV 10x50, Nikon: AE 16x50, 10x50, 8x40.
EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.
Solar: HA: Lunt 50mm single stack, W/L: Meade Herschel wedge.

Observing: DSOs: 3106 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2180, S110: 77). Doubles: 2437, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 257
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Nice report! And congrats on the VROD!
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turboscrew wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 6:43 pm Nice report! And congrats on the VROD!
Thanks Juha!
Scopes: Stellarvue: SV102ED; Celestron: 9.25" EdgeHD, 8" SCT, 150ST, Onyx 80ED; iOptron: Hankmeister 6" Mak; SW: 7" Mak; Meade: 80ST.
Mounts: SW: SkyTee2, AzGTi; iOptron: AZMP; ES: Twilight I; Bresser: EXOS2; UA: MicroStar.
Binos: APM: 100-90 APO; Canon: IS 15x50; Orion: Binoviewer, LG II 15x70, WV 10x50, Nikon: AE 16x50, 10x50, 8x40.
EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.
Solar: HA: Lunt 50mm single stack, W/L: Meade Herschel wedge.

Observing: DSOs: 3106 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2180, S110: 77). Doubles: 2437, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 257
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VROD 👍 YES !
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Lots of nice doubles in Aquarius! NIce split of STF 2752!

Congrats on another VROD!

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Thanks Mark and Dave!
Scopes: Stellarvue: SV102ED; Celestron: 9.25" EdgeHD, 8" SCT, 150ST, Onyx 80ED; iOptron: Hankmeister 6" Mak; SW: 7" Mak; Meade: 80ST.
Mounts: SW: SkyTee2, AzGTi; iOptron: AZMP; ES: Twilight I; Bresser: EXOS2; UA: MicroStar.
Binos: APM: 100-90 APO; Canon: IS 15x50; Orion: Binoviewer, LG II 15x70, WV 10x50, Nikon: AE 16x50, 10x50, 8x40.
EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.
Solar: HA: Lunt 50mm single stack, W/L: Meade Herschel wedge.

Observing: DSOs: 3106 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2180, S110: 77). Doubles: 2437, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 257
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