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6/20/21

Location: home, Bortle 6.0
Equipment: Stellarvue 102ED, Celestron Onyx 80ED and Celestron 8” SCT on SW SkyTee 2 mount, Orion prism binoviewever.

Conditions (near full Moon and high humidity) were pretty bad, but I had a free evening and at least could test some equipment on the Moon.

The first thing I wanted to try was Burgess 1.9x OCA in the binoviewer. It did deliver wider FOV compared to the front lens from 2x barlow I have used before and there was some in-focus travel left with Stellarvue. This means I can get away with using 1.6x or maybe even 1.25x OCAs. The views of Moon were nice and sharp, and observing with two eyes very relaxing. Then I swapped BVs to 8” SCT (no OCA needed) and have enjoyed some nice views as well.

I also wanted to test my new Apertura 50mm RACI optics at higher powers. The Moon was nice and sharp with BCO 6mm (33x, 1.5mm exit pupil). Surprisingly I could not detect any CA. Then I added Baader 2.25x Q-barlow for 74x. The view of lunar disk was dim at 0.5mm exit pupil and now I can see some CA at the rim. The focus was softer, but that could be due to bad seeing. I will revisit under better conditions and will try some bright DSOs.

My last goal for the evening was to binoview something other than the Moon. It has been a while since I catch any asteroids. The sky was terrible, hardly any stars visible naked eye; just a few in 10x50 RACI. It took me long time to navigate manually to the first target, but I managed. I look through BV installed on SCT 8” and the view was really dim and soupy.

Determined to catch at least some asteroids I have reconfigured my setup to mono-viewing and also replaced SV 102ED with Celestron Onyx 80ED to be used as a large finder. I have re-aligned everything using Polaris and went back to asteroid hunting. Even in mono mode all views were dim and soapy. Moon light combined with high humidity and low transparency made terrible concoction. I did ick three asteroids and called it around 23:00.

(419) Aurelia, mag 10.2, F-type asteroid in Sagittarius. Celestron 8” SCT/Pentax XW20 (101x).
(584) Semiramis, mag 11.3, S-type asteroid in Sagittarius. With estimated size of 27 km it is the third smallest asteroid I was able to observe. Been able to see something small like that ~200 million km away is mind blowing. Celestron 8” SCT/Pentax XW20 (101x).
(83) Beatrix, reported mag 12, FAILED to detect.
(105) Artemis, mag 11.4, C-type asteroid in Hercules. Celestron 8” SCT/Pentax XW20 (101x).
Scopes: Stellarvue: SV102ED; Celestron: 9.25" EdgeHD, 8" SCT, 150ST, Onyx 80ED; iOptron: Hankmeister 6" Mak; SW: 7" Mak; Meade: 80ST.
Mounts: SW: SkyTee2, AzGTi; iOptron: AZMP; ES: Twilight I; Bresser: EXOS2; UA: MicroStar.
Binos: APM: 100-90 APO; Canon: IS 15x50; Orion: Binoviewer, LG II 15x70, WV 10x50, Nikon: AE 16x50, 10x50, 8x40.
EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.

Observing: DSOs: 3106 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2180, S110: 77). Doubles: 2382, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 255
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Thanks for the update, Bigzmey, on your work with the binoviewer as well as the trip through the sky. :)

I have been looking at binoviewers. Orion currently has two showing on their website. One has red eyepiece holders and sells for $499, I think. The other one sells for $209 and comes with a little suitcase looking case. Is your binoviewer either one of those current listings?

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MistrBadgr wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 6:26 pm Thanks for the update, Bigzmey, on your work with the binoviewer as well as the trip through the sky. :)

I have been looking at binoviewers. Orion currently has two showing on their website. One has red eyepiece holders and sells for $499, I think. The other one sells for $209 and comes with a little suitcase looking case. Is your binoviewer either one of those current listings?

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Thanks Bill! Mine are $209 model.

They are basic but get the job done. Mine came well-collimated and operate nicely. It seems that they are best suited for brighter targets like Moon and planets, but that's what most people use binoviewers anyway.
Scopes: Stellarvue: SV102ED; Celestron: 9.25" EdgeHD, 8" SCT, 150ST, Onyx 80ED; iOptron: Hankmeister 6" Mak; SW: 7" Mak; Meade: 80ST.
Mounts: SW: SkyTee2, AzGTi; iOptron: AZMP; ES: Twilight I; Bresser: EXOS2; UA: MicroStar.
Binos: APM: 100-90 APO; Canon: IS 15x50; Orion: Binoviewer, LG II 15x70, WV 10x50, Nikon: AE 16x50, 10x50, 8x40.
EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.

Observing: DSOs: 3106 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2180, S110: 77). Doubles: 2382, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 255
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Thanks, Bigzmey. My wife told me I needed to get something as a father's day present. The $209 binoviewer seems to be an all around good choice for me. I can use my two sets of Meade 5000 series Ploessels with it, I think. :)
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Nice session and report, Andrey! Congrats on the asteroid captures!!

I received my new Apertura viewfinder and used it on my double star review the other night. Love it!!

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A nice session Bigzmey, good to hear you are getting the BVs out working as well.
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MistrBadgr wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 7:17 pm Thanks, Bigzmey. My wife told me I needed to get something as a father's day present. The $209 binoviewer seems to be an all around good choice for me. I can use my two sets of Meade 5000 series Ploessels with it, I think. :)
Absolutely! My favorite pairs are 32mm and 26mm Plossls. Not sure if BVs will work in a reflector, do you have any fracs?
Scopes: Stellarvue: SV102ED; Celestron: 9.25" EdgeHD, 8" SCT, 150ST, Onyx 80ED; iOptron: Hankmeister 6" Mak; SW: 7" Mak; Meade: 80ST.
Mounts: SW: SkyTee2, AzGTi; iOptron: AZMP; ES: Twilight I; Bresser: EXOS2; UA: MicroStar.
Binos: APM: 100-90 APO; Canon: IS 15x50; Orion: Binoviewer, LG II 15x70, WV 10x50, Nikon: AE 16x50, 10x50, 8x40.
EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.

Observing: DSOs: 3106 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2180, S110: 77). Doubles: 2382, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 255
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Unitron48 wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 7:26 pm Nice session and report, Andrey! Congrats on the asteroid captures!!

I received my new Apertura viewfinder and used it on my double star review the other night. Love it!!

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Thanks Dave! Glad to hear about the Aperture RACI, I am enjoying mine.
Scopes: Stellarvue: SV102ED; Celestron: 9.25" EdgeHD, 8" SCT, 150ST, Onyx 80ED; iOptron: Hankmeister 6" Mak; SW: 7" Mak; Meade: 80ST.
Mounts: SW: SkyTee2, AzGTi; iOptron: AZMP; ES: Twilight I; Bresser: EXOS2; UA: MicroStar.
Binos: APM: 100-90 APO; Canon: IS 15x50; Orion: Binoviewer, LG II 15x70, WV 10x50, Nikon: AE 16x50, 10x50, 8x40.
EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.

Observing: DSOs: 3106 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2180, S110: 77). Doubles: 2382, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 255
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Lady Fraktor wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 7:32 pm A nice session Bigzmey, good to hear you are getting the BVs out working as well.
Thanks Gabby!
Scopes: Stellarvue: SV102ED; Celestron: 9.25" EdgeHD, 8" SCT, 150ST, Onyx 80ED; iOptron: Hankmeister 6" Mak; SW: 7" Mak; Meade: 80ST.
Mounts: SW: SkyTee2, AzGTi; iOptron: AZMP; ES: Twilight I; Bresser: EXOS2; UA: MicroStar.
Binos: APM: 100-90 APO; Canon: IS 15x50; Orion: Binoviewer, LG II 15x70, WV 10x50, Nikon: AE 16x50, 10x50, 8x40.
EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.

Observing: DSOs: 3106 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2180, S110: 77). Doubles: 2382, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 255
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Bigzmey wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 7:48 pm
MistrBadgr wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 7:17 pm Thanks, Bigzmey. My wife told me I needed to get something as a father's day present. The $209 binoviewer seems to be an all around good choice for me. I can use my two sets of Meade 5000 series Ploessels with it, I think. :)
Absolutely! My favorite pairs are 32mm and 26mm Plossls. Not sure if BVs will work in a reflector, do you have any fracs?
Yes I do. From 60mm to 102mm in 10mm steps. They are all introductory scopes that I have flocked and did other things to them. If necessary, I would not hesitate to take an introductory scope and cut it down a bit to get the focus right and then use it exclusively with the binoviewers. On my 6 and 8 inch reflectors, the focusers are fairly long and then the transition piece is long enough to be removed to allow an imager extra space. If push comes to shove, I can change out the original focuser to a simple type Moonlite that I have waiting in the wings.
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Really nice report Bigzmey :) those binoviewers sound like fun :)
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MistrBadgr wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:57 pm
Bigzmey wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 7:48 pm
MistrBadgr wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 7:17 pm Thanks, Bigzmey. My wife told me I needed to get something as a father's day present. The $209 binoviewer seems to be an all around good choice for me. I can use my two sets of Meade 5000 series Ploessels with it, I think. :)
Absolutely! My favorite pairs are 32mm and 26mm Plossls. Not sure if BVs will work in a reflector, do you have any fracs?
Yes I do. From 60mm to 102mm in 10mm steps. They are all introductory scopes that I have flocked and did other things to them. If necessary, I would not hesitate to take an introductory scope and cut it down a bit to get the focus right and then use it exclusively with the binoviewers. On my 6 and 8 inch reflectors, the focusers are fairly long and then the transition piece is long enough to be removed to allow an imager extra space. If push comes to shove, I can change out the original focuser to a simple type Moonlite that I have waiting in the wings.
Nice! You are all set then. Taken a saw to a scope if you are willing will get you a native focal length with BVs. Less drastic approach is to use OCAs or barlow lenses to get focus. It adds to the scope's focal length, but for Moon and planets it is actually beneficial.
Scopes: Stellarvue: SV102ED; Celestron: 9.25" EdgeHD, 8" SCT, 150ST, Onyx 80ED; iOptron: Hankmeister 6" Mak; SW: 7" Mak; Meade: 80ST.
Mounts: SW: SkyTee2, AzGTi; iOptron: AZMP; ES: Twilight I; Bresser: EXOS2; UA: MicroStar.
Binos: APM: 100-90 APO; Canon: IS 15x50; Orion: Binoviewer, LG II 15x70, WV 10x50, Nikon: AE 16x50, 10x50, 8x40.
EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.

Observing: DSOs: 3106 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2180, S110: 77). Doubles: 2382, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 255
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Ylem wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 9:07 pm Really nice report Bigzmey :) those binoviewers sound like fun :)
Thanks Jeff! They are and give you an excuse to buy more EPs. :lol:
Scopes: Stellarvue: SV102ED; Celestron: 9.25" EdgeHD, 8" SCT, 150ST, Onyx 80ED; iOptron: Hankmeister 6" Mak; SW: 7" Mak; Meade: 80ST.
Mounts: SW: SkyTee2, AzGTi; iOptron: AZMP; ES: Twilight I; Bresser: EXOS2; UA: MicroStar.
Binos: APM: 100-90 APO; Canon: IS 15x50; Orion: Binoviewer, LG II 15x70, WV 10x50, Nikon: AE 16x50, 10x50, 8x40.
EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.

Observing: DSOs: 3106 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2180, S110: 77). Doubles: 2382, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 255
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Bigzmey wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 9:09 pm
Ylem wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 9:07 pm Really nice report Bigzmey :) those binoviewers sound like fun :)
Thanks Jeff! They are and give you an excuse to buy more EPs. :lol:
:lol: OMG! How true!!
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Nice! Especially the asteroids!
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Congrats Bigz on winning the VROD for 6-23! Very nice report on the lunar stuff, binoviewing and the asteroids.
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turboscrew wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 9:29 pm Nice! Especially the asteroids!
Thanks Turboscrew!
helicon wrote: Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:43 pm Congrats Bigz on winning the VROD for 6-23! Very nice report on the lunar stuff, binoviewing and the asteroids.
Thanks Michael and TSS team, much appreciated!
Scopes: Stellarvue: SV102ED; Celestron: 9.25" EdgeHD, 8" SCT, 150ST, Onyx 80ED; iOptron: Hankmeister 6" Mak; SW: 7" Mak; Meade: 80ST.
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Binos: APM: 100-90 APO; Canon: IS 15x50; Orion: Binoviewer, LG II 15x70, WV 10x50, Nikon: AE 16x50, 10x50, 8x40.
EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.

Observing: DSOs: 3106 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2180, S110: 77). Doubles: 2382, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 255
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Congrats on the VROD, Andrey!
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Re: Mostly Lunar

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KingNothing13 wrote: Wed Jun 23, 2021 5:10 pm Congrats on the VROD, Andrey!
Thanks Brett!
Scopes: Stellarvue: SV102ED; Celestron: 9.25" EdgeHD, 8" SCT, 150ST, Onyx 80ED; iOptron: Hankmeister 6" Mak; SW: 7" Mak; Meade: 80ST.
Mounts: SW: SkyTee2, AzGTi; iOptron: AZMP; ES: Twilight I; Bresser: EXOS2; UA: MicroStar.
Binos: APM: 100-90 APO; Canon: IS 15x50; Orion: Binoviewer, LG II 15x70, WV 10x50, Nikon: AE 16x50, 10x50, 8x40.
EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.

Observing: DSOs: 3106 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2180, S110: 77). Doubles: 2382, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 255
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Re: Mostly Lunar

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Hi Andrey. Another great observing report from you. And as usual, it was a fun read and well written. You did a great job with the new binoviewers. Thanks for your latest report Andrey, and congratulations on winning yet another TSS VROD Award.
Marshall
Sky-Watcher 90mm f/13.8 Maksutov-Cassegrain on motorized Multimount
Orion Astroview 120ST f/5 Refractor on EQ3 mount
Celestron Comet Catcher 140mm f/3.64 Schmidt-Newtonian on alt-az mount
Celestron Omni XLT150R f/5 Refractor on CG4 mount with dual axis drives.
Orion 180mm f/15 Maksutov-Cassegrain on CG5-GT Goto mount.
Orion XT12i 12" f/4.9 Dobsonian Intelliscope.
Kamakura 7x35 Binoculars and Celestron SkyMaster 15x70 Binoculars. ZWO ASI 120MC camera.
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