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Re: Not Good

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Great news Abb. I'm happy to hear that the collimation process was easy - in case I ever have to collimate mine. Enjoy the new binos and the enhanced views.

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Way to go Abb! Glad you have things well in hand.

To quote John "Hannibal' Smith - I love it when a plan comes together.

Enjoy the new binos.
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Congrats, Abb. It's got to make for a better day when something like that ends up in the good column.
OTA's: 203mm f10 Meade SCT (LXD75); Antares 80mm Refractor w/William Optics APOGrade f6.9 objective; Orion Starseeker 80 f11.2 Refractor
Mount/tripod's: Meade LXD-75 EQ; Orion Starseeker IV ALT/AZ; Celestron Heavy Duty ALT/AZ Farpoint UBM (Universal Binocular Mount)
Eyepieces:Meade - 26mm plossl, 12mm Astrometric; GSO (OPT badge) 2" Superview 50mm & 30mm 1.25" 15mm; TMB Planetary Series 9mm, 6mm, & 4mm: 10mm & 23mm 60° that came with the 80mm f11.2
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The only problem I have now is the tripod. It was fine for the 15x70's but not so for this one. The 15x70 weigh 1.3 Kg whereas the 20x80's weigh 3.3 Kg - just a tad heavier :)

Oh well.....
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I've not yet ventured out to try my binos on my vintage (40 yr old) pan head tripod. But perhaps if the weather is agreeable tomorrow - the tripod is supposedly rated for a 20# ( 9kg ) capacity so it should be more than adequate to the task?
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AbbN wrote: Sun Jun 23, 2019 4:05 am The only problem I have now is the tripod. It was fine for the 15x70's but not so for this one. The 15x70 weigh 1.3 Kg whereas the 20x80's weigh 3.3 Kg - just a tad heavier :)

Oh well.....
Abb
Start saving up for an Obie TR3
I'm wondering about mine for the 25x100. The spec says 15kg. I Guess I'll find out when the time comes. I've got a rock bag for it. Maybe that'll help.
OTA's: 203mm f10 Meade SCT (LXD75); Antares 80mm Refractor w/William Optics APOGrade f6.9 objective; Orion Starseeker 80 f11.2 Refractor
Mount/tripod's: Meade LXD-75 EQ; Orion Starseeker IV ALT/AZ; Celestron Heavy Duty ALT/AZ Farpoint UBM (Universal Binocular Mount)
Eyepieces:Meade - 26mm plossl, 12mm Astrometric; GSO (OPT badge) 2" Superview 50mm & 30mm 1.25" 15mm; TMB Planetary Series 9mm, 6mm, & 4mm: 10mm & 23mm 60° that came with the 80mm f11.2
Barlows: Orion 2x Shorty; Meade 4000 Series 3x
Binoculars:Brunton 10x50 Celestron Skymaster 15x70 Oberwerk 25x100 IF delux
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Re: Not Good

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Gulf Coast Guy wrote: Sun Jun 23, 2019 5:45 am
Start saving up for an Obie TR3
I'm wondering about mine for the 25x100. The spec says 15kg. I Guess I'll find out when the time comes. I've got a rock bag for it. Maybe that'll help.
You mean this - https://oberwerk.com/product/custom-bui ... rwerk-usa/

Plus I should get this - https://oberwerk.com/product/farpoint-u ... lar-mount/

And then convert that total of $630 US to Canadian which approx equals $790 in Canadian funds. Perhaps some day but NOT for my current binos but perhaps for THIS pair :D - https://oberwerk.com/product/oberwerk-bt-100xl-ed/

Abb
TELESCOPES: Celestron Omni XLT 120, Explore Scientific AR102, Orion ST80 Refractors; 8" Skywatcher Dob; Orion Apex 102 Mak; Coronado PST. LENSES: ES 4.7, 6.7, 11, 18 and 30mm 82° EPs; Baader 24mm 68°; Luminos 15mm 82°; Meade 8-24mm Zoom. OTHER: CG4+16" Orion Pier Extension; Celestron Skymaster 20x80 binos etc;
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Re: Not Good

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AbbN wrote: Sun Jun 23, 2019 1:08 pm
Gulf Coast Guy wrote: Sun Jun 23, 2019 5:45 am
Start saving up for an Obie TR3
I'm wondering about mine for the 25x100. The spec says 15kg. I Guess I'll find out when the time comes. I've got a rock bag for it. Maybe that'll help.
You mean this - https://oberwerk.com/product/custom-bui ... rwerk-usa/

Plus I should get this - https://oberwerk.com/product/farpoint-u ... lar-mount/

And then convert that total of $630 US to Canadian which approx equals $790 in Canadian funds. Perhaps some day but NOT for my current binos but perhaps for THIS pair :D - https://oberwerk.com/product/oberwerk-bt-100xl-ed/

Abb
I've gotthe Faepoint UBM swing hinge comming in Tues. The UBM was on Backorder. It should ship Tues.

The BT100XL ED loks good But selling my wife on the idea of the NEED to replicate every thing in my eyepiece collection just would't float.
One thing I like aboutit and the Std. Bt100 is the picatinny rail for a finder.
OTA's: 203mm f10 Meade SCT (LXD75); Antares 80mm Refractor w/William Optics APOGrade f6.9 objective; Orion Starseeker 80 f11.2 Refractor
Mount/tripod's: Meade LXD-75 EQ; Orion Starseeker IV ALT/AZ; Celestron Heavy Duty ALT/AZ Farpoint UBM (Universal Binocular Mount)
Eyepieces:Meade - 26mm plossl, 12mm Astrometric; GSO (OPT badge) 2" Superview 50mm & 30mm 1.25" 15mm; TMB Planetary Series 9mm, 6mm, & 4mm: 10mm & 23mm 60° that came with the 80mm f11.2
Barlows: Orion 2x Shorty; Meade 4000 Series 3x
Binoculars:Brunton 10x50 Celestron Skymaster 15x70 Oberwerk 25x100 IF delux
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Re: Not Good

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Thanks for the post, I believe I need to align my SkyMaster 20x80's and my Tasco 10x50's as well. I think they just need tweaked because I can't help but think everytime I look through them both that the night sky images could be better!
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Refractors: Meade AR-5 127mm f/9.3, Meade ST-80 f/5 and Meade 60mm f/12, Jason 60mm f/15 #313, Jason 60mm f/12 #306 S7, Bushnell Sky Chief III 60mm f/15.
Reflectors/Catadioptrics: Meade 10" F/4 Schmidt-Newtonian, Galileo 120mm f/8.3 Newtonian, Meade 2045D 4" f/10 SCT, Meade ETX-90EC f/13.8 & Sarblue 60mm f/12.5 Maksutov-Cassegrains.
Mounts: Skywatcher EQ6-R Pro & Meade LXD55 Equatorial mounts, ES Twilight II and Meade 2102 ALT/AZ mounts, a modified 10" SkyQuest Dobsonian mount, various 60mm EQ mounts.
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I've got some Brunton (Cheap China made BAK7 prism 10x50s that are showing double images on Jupiter. They might as well be the lab rat set for alignment trials and training.
OTA's: 203mm f10 Meade SCT (LXD75); Antares 80mm Refractor w/William Optics APOGrade f6.9 objective; Orion Starseeker 80 f11.2 Refractor
Mount/tripod's: Meade LXD-75 EQ; Orion Starseeker IV ALT/AZ; Celestron Heavy Duty ALT/AZ Farpoint UBM (Universal Binocular Mount)
Eyepieces:Meade - 26mm plossl, 12mm Astrometric; GSO (OPT badge) 2" Superview 50mm & 30mm 1.25" 15mm; TMB Planetary Series 9mm, 6mm, & 4mm: 10mm & 23mm 60° that came with the 80mm f11.2
Barlows: Orion 2x Shorty; Meade 4000 Series 3x
Binoculars:Brunton 10x50 Celestron Skymaster 15x70 Oberwerk 25x100 IF delux
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Glad to hear you managed to get them collimated in the end.
With the price of good binoculars in todays market I would look at the APM or Oberwerks.
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Re: Not Good

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AbbN wrote: Sun Jun 23, 2019 1:08 pm
Gulf Coast Guy wrote: Sun Jun 23, 2019 5:45 am
Start saving up for an Obie TR3
I'm wondering about mine for the 25x100. The spec says 15kg. I Guess I'll find out when the time comes. I've got a rock bag for it. Maybe that'll help.
You mean this - https://oberwerk.com/product/custom-bui ... rwerk-usa/

Plus I should get this - https://oberwerk.com/product/farpoint-u ... lar-mount/

And then convert that total of $630 US to Canadian which approx equals $790 in Canadian funds. Perhaps some day but NOT for my current binos but perhaps for THIS pair :D - https://oberwerk.com/product/oberwerk-bt-100xl-ed/

Abb
Well, yea... A parallelogram mount looks nice and many like them but they are expensive and you still have to look up.

I swear by my Tiltall tripod with a 44 lbs. capacity, photographer-designed rock solid old fashioned tripod, very affordably priced. I got mine for $35 at the RTMC (https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/ ... 4ee3527b0c). You will love it for daytime use too.

Because I get tired of looking up my next pair of binos will definitely be 90 degree semi-APO but not the expensive ones you linked, Teleskop Service has more affordable ones.

To be honest I have to wait until the pea soup clears, I have a ton of gear and I sometimes wonder if will ever see a starry sky again from my home...
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I was thinking of this one as it seems to get good reviews regarding use it with binos. Hmmmmm......



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AbbN wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:34 am I was thinking of this one as it seems to get good reviews regarding use it with binos. Hmmmmm......



Abb
The legs have 4 segments with clips, the Tiltall has 3 with screws. The capacity is 9 lbs whereeas the Tiltall has 40 lbs. It is hard to convey the point, you have to see it and feel it. I have a photographer friend with a fancy carbon fiber tripod who is jealous.
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AbbN wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:34 am I was thinking of this one as it seems to get good reviews regarding use it with binos. Hmmmmm......



Abb
Watch out on the weight on that hook. Most are spring supported and won't take more than 10# or so
I've got this for extra ballast weight. It does a pretty good job.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01E534ZB2/re ... B01E5350TI
OTA's: 203mm f10 Meade SCT (LXD75); Antares 80mm Refractor w/William Optics APOGrade f6.9 objective; Orion Starseeker 80 f11.2 Refractor
Mount/tripod's: Meade LXD-75 EQ; Orion Starseeker IV ALT/AZ; Celestron Heavy Duty ALT/AZ Farpoint UBM (Universal Binocular Mount)
Eyepieces:Meade - 26mm plossl, 12mm Astrometric; GSO (OPT badge) 2" Superview 50mm & 30mm 1.25" 15mm; TMB Planetary Series 9mm, 6mm, & 4mm: 10mm & 23mm 60° that came with the 80mm f11.2
Barlows: Orion 2x Shorty; Meade 4000 Series 3x
Binoculars:Brunton 10x50 Celestron Skymaster 15x70 Oberwerk 25x100 IF delux
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Gulf Coast Guy wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:55 pm
Watch out on the weight on that hook. Most are spring supported and won't take more than 10# or so
I've got this for extra ballast weight. It does a pretty good job.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01E534ZB2/re ... B01E5350TI
I actually have two 5lb ankle weights my son gave me that I usually put on my tripods. As you can see it can be attached to the tripod hook :)

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Finally! New binos on new tripod (Celestron TrailSeeker Tripod). BTW, this tripod is excellent for binos. Those are the two weights I previously mentioned. Unfortunately the cloud gods still aren't co-operating :mad:


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TELESCOPES: Celestron Omni XLT 120, Explore Scientific AR102, Orion ST80 Refractors; 8" Skywatcher Dob; Orion Apex 102 Mak; Coronado PST. LENSES: ES 4.7, 6.7, 11, 18 and 30mm 82° EPs; Baader 24mm 68°; Luminos 15mm 82°; Meade 8-24mm Zoom. OTHER: CG4+16" Orion Pier Extension; Celestron Skymaster 20x80 binos etc;
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Nice set-up Abb. I hope it clears for you soon.
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Refractors: ES AR152 f/6.5 Achromat on Twilight II, Celestron 102mm XLT f/9.8 on Celestron Heavy Duty Alt Az mount, KOWA 90mm spotting scope
Binoculars: Celestron SkyMaster 15x70, Bushnell 10x50
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Abb, that is great news! Good call Henk!

Glad that all is well.

Thanks,
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Glad to hear your collimation worked out. My somewhat-collimated Skymasters have gone wacky on me again. Not sure if I can collimate again because it felt like one screw was as far as it could go last time and that was not quite enough to my eye.

Geez, I just looked at the specs on the Obie 20x80s. 18 pounds?? Ay carumba.
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