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Celestron hand control: where to input lat. and long.?

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:27 am
by gregl
Hi folks:

After the hand control for my 8SE died I ordered a new one. Of course, the style is slightly different from the old one and I can't find where to input latitude and longitude for the observing location. There is a database of cities, but the old controller let me get more specific via. lat. and long. data. This new controller is the one with the Celestron logo on the lowest left button.

Anyone know if there is a way to input latitude and longitude? THANKS!

Re: Celestron hand control: where to input lat. and long.?

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:01 am
by Lady Fraktor
I believe it is power on, press align then press undo/ return until it brings up the coordinate screen.

Re: Celestron hand control: where to input lat. and long.?

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:30 pm
by gregl
Thanks, Lady Fraktor. Yes. Got it. Power on - "Align" - "Back" 4 times to "City Database" then scroll down one to "Custom Site" and then "Enter." After you've done that once, then with subsequent power on action you only need to press "Align" and "Back" once to get to the right screen.

A little gripe at Celestron: The manuals are poorly written and embarrassingly brief. There are a number of things about the SE that a user should know that aren't covered in the manual. And this isn't limited to Celestron. Too often user manuals are written by the engineers who designed the product, not the folks who will use it. Product manuals should be written by professional writers who are not otherwise involved in the product and can look at it from the perspective of someone coming to it for the first time.

Anyhow, thanks again, Lady Fraktor.

Re: Celestron hand control: where to input lat. and long.?

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:34 pm
by Lady Fraktor
I have ASGT/ AVX manuals back to the first version and the manuals after the second one get poorer and poorer on providing information on using and adjusting the programming.
By the time Celestron produced the AVX the manual was better used as a pizza napkin while you figured things out on your own....

Re: Celestron hand control: where to input lat. and long.?

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:52 pm
by Greenman
Lady Fraktor wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:34 pm I have ASGT/ AVX manuals back to the first version and the manuals after the second one get poorer and poorer on providing information on using and adjusting the programming.
By the time Celestron produced the AVX the manual was better used as a pizza napkin while you figured things out on your own....
An effect of the jolly old internet, manufacturers first shifted to PDF's - to save on printing costs (give me a book any day!). Then there was the -look at the blogs - or the real back door - we have a comuunity forum (answer your own damn questions!). Finally to brief edutorial video's [which are more sales tools than anything else].

How do I know - it happened in my industry too - along with 'let's get rid of the guys that know stuff (too expensive) and use interns (slave labour) as they are the future! The future may not be bright, but it will be cheap.

Not that any of this annoyed me. As you can probably tell - oh no, not in the slightest! :Boo: :flame: :veryconfused:

Re: Celestron hand control: where to input lat. and long.?

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:58 pm
by gregl
You've nailed it, Greenman. Don't get me started. After the revolution, when I am named emperor, I will revoke the diplomas of all the engineers who design products stupidly, which is most of them, and I will further consign them to spend eternity trying to repair them. Frankly, I think Celestron contracted out the hand control software to the same outfit that designed the website for the Department of Motor Vehicles.

Re: Celestron hand control: where to input lat. and long.?

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:09 pm
by Greenman
gregl wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:58 pm You've nailed it, Greenman. Don't get me started. After the revolution, when I am named emperor, I will revoke the diplomas of all the engineers who design products stupidly, which is most of them, and I will further consign them to spend eternity trying to repair them. Frankly, I think Celestron contracted out the hand control software to the same outfit that designed the website for the Department of Motor Vehicles.
If you are emperor, can I be executioner?

Outsourcing, arghh!

As functional as Just In Time, or as its better known - 'Where the hell are they'?'
You know, I think I'm getting old - nah, its maturity.

Re: Celestron hand control: where to input lat. and long.?

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:24 pm
by gregl
No, Greenman, we will not execute them. That would put them out of their misery. They need to suffer. But you can supervise the smoldering sulfurated pit where they will languish while being forced to read inscrutable instruction manuals for junk out of their areas of "expertise" and then be forced to try to repair garbage that was made so that it cannot be repaired.

As to old, when you're young you don't realize that you are being fed a line. Now that we're old, we're just tired of all the b.s.

Re: Celestron hand control: where to input lat. and long.?

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:27 am
by Greenman
gregl wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:24 pm No, Greenman, we will not execute them. That would put them out of their misery. They need to suffer. But you can supervise the smoldering sulfurated pit where they will languish while being forced to read inscrutable instruction manuals for junk out of their areas of "expertise" and then be forced to try to repair garbage that was made so that it cannot be repaired.

As to old, when you're young you don't realize that you are being fed a line. Now that we're old, we're just tired of all the b.s.
Fair enough, pit supervisor sounds ideal!

Yes, b.s. and MBA wisdom; age brings a satisfying allergy to shoeshine. Youth has a fear of reality and an odd belief that you can change the world - reality is -it changes us.