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returning to the hobby, struggling with PHD2/guiding

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:59 am
by graywmj5
HI all,

Just relocated to Az, and getting my gear set up. I am having issues with the Autoguiding and would appreciate any suggestions.

Using the ASi1224 with the ZWO mini guide scope. I am running the camera through the ASI183. I set up the proper specs in the PHD2 wizard for the camera and miniscope.

Every attempt at guiding so far has resulted in the process not getting past the West step and telling me that the calibration failed due to star not moving enough.

I have been trying to use "on-Camera" for my mount connection, but have tried all other offered and same results.

I would appreciate any suggestions as all else is going well and need to get past this bump.

Thanks, Bill

Re: returning to the hobby, struggling with PHD2/guiding

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:54 am
by KenGS
Please post your guide log - it will help the analysis greatly.
One possibility is that your guiding rate is too low.

Re: returning to the hobby, struggling with PHD2/guiding

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:31 pm
by KathyNS
Are you using an ST-4 cable between the guide camera and the mount? The "On camera" mount selection is only for use with ST-4 cables.

Does the mount move at all during calibration? It is useful to monitor its movement during calibration. I can't remember now if it wants to move 50 pixels in 25 steps or 25 pixels in 50 steps, but by monitoring the movement in pixels (shown at the bottom of the screen during calibration), you can tell how much you need to increase the calibration step size. You can also tell if the mount is not moving at all, which usually indicates a connectivity or driver problem.

There is a function under the "brain" icon to calculate the ideal calibration step size. This assumes you are calibrating at low declinations. If you are using ST-4 guiding, you need to recalibrate every time you change declination, and the calibration step size will need to increase to accommodate the converging lines of RA.

Re: returning to the hobby, struggling with PHD2/guiding

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:36 pm
by graywmj5
Thanks for the reply, Ken.

Here is the log from last night:

PHD2 version 2.6.8 [Windows], Log version 2.5. Log enabled at 2020-06-29 22:55:51

Calibration Begins at 2020-06-29 22:57:28
Equipment Profile = asi2
Dither = both axes, Dither scale = 1.000, Image noise reduction = 2x2 mean, Guide-frame time lapse = 0, Server enabled
Pixel scale = unspecified, Binning = 1, Focal length = unspecified
Search region = 15 px, Star mass tolerance = 50.0%
Camera = ZWO ASI224MC, gain = 70, full size = 1304 x 976, have dark, dark dur = 1500, no defect map, pixel size = 3.8 um
Exposure = 1500 ms
Mount = POTH->I_Simulator (ASCOM), Calibration Step = 1171 ms, Calibration Distance = 25 px, Assume orthogonal axes = no
RA Guide Speed = 15.0 a-s/s, Dec Guide Speed = 15.0 a-s/s
RA = 17.10 hr, Dec = -0.0 deg, Hour angle = 0.04 hr, Pier side = Unknown, Rotator pos = N/A, Alt = 89.4 deg, Az = 261.6 deg
Lock position = 286.953, 332.716, Star position = 285.730, 333.351, HFD = 4.73 px
Direction,Step,dx,dy,x,y,Dist
West,0,0.000,0.000,286.280,333.370,0.000
West,1,0.206,-0.503,286.075,333.873,0.544
West,2,-0.109,0.085,286.389,333.285,0.138
West,3,0.747,0.355,285.534,333.015,0.827
West,4,0.369,0.080,285.912,333.289,0.377
West,5,-0.054,-0.607,286.334,333.976,0.609
West,6,0.468,0.049,285.812,333.320,0.471
West,7,0.026,-0.500,286.254,333.870,0.501
West,8,-0.403,0.041,286.684,333.329,0.405
West,9,-0.469,0.021,286.749,333.348,0.470
West,10,0.149,0.154,286.132,333.216,0.214
West,11,-0.224,-0.193,286.505,333.562,0.296
West,12,-0.340,-0.520,286.620,333.890,0.621
West,13,-0.697,-0.386,286.977,333.756,0.797
West,14,-0.498,-0.581,286.779,333.950,0.765
West,15,-0.052,-0.892,286.333,334.262,0.894
West,16,-0.181,-1.005,286.462,334.375,1.022
West,17,-0.731,-0.089,287.012,333.459,0.737
West,18,-0.269,-0.756,286.549,334.125,0.802
West,19,-0.444,-0.898,286.724,334.268,1.002
West,20,-0.735,-0.226,287.015,333.596,0.769
West,21,-0.340,-0.371,286.620,333.741,0.503
West,22,-0.483,-0.372,286.763,333.741,0.609
West,23,-0.508,-1.161,286.789,334.530,1.267
West,24,-0.690,-0.885,286.971,334.254,1.122
West,25,-0.436,-1.333,286.716,334.702,1.402
West,26,-0.554,-0.627,286.834,333.996,0.836
West,27,-0.381,-1.342,286.661,334.712,1.395
West,28,-0.405,-0.683,286.685,334.053,0.794
West,29,-0.604,-0.931,286.884,334.300,1.110
West,30,-0.836,-0.857,287.116,334.227,1.197
West,31,-0.854,-1.077,287.134,334.447,1.375
West,32,-0.575,-0.936,286.855,334.306,1.099
West,33,-0.541,-1.072,286.821,334.442,1.201
West,34,-0.258,-1.284,286.538,334.654,1.310
West,35,-0.420,-1.834,286.701,335.204,1.882
West,36,-0.432,-1.356,286.712,334.726,1.424
West,37,-0.586,-1.506,286.867,334.876,1.616
West,38,-0.506,-1.016,286.787,334.386,1.135
West,39,-0.794,-1.128,287.075,334.497,1.380
West,40,-0.978,-1.518,287.258,334.887,1.806
West,41,-0.123,-1.602,286.404,334.972,1.607
West,42,-0.196,-1.339,286.476,334.709,1.353
West,43,-0.462,-1.319,286.743,334.689,1.398
West,44,0.136,-1.881,286.144,335.251,1.886
West,45,-0.365,-1.481,286.645,334.850,1.525
West,46,-0.137,-1.577,286.417,334.947,1.583
West,47,-0.436,-1.819,286.716,335.189,1.871
West,48,-0.308,-1.858,286.589,335.227,1.883
West,49,-0.298,-1.688,286.578,335.058,1.714
West,50,-0.136,-2.229,286.417,335.598,2.233
West,51,-0.368,-1.719,286.649,335.089,1.758
West,52,-0.419,-2.018,286.699,335.387,2.061
West,53,-0.335,-1.587,286.616,334.956,1.622
West,54,-0.554,-1.815,286.835,335.184,1.898
West,55,-0.690,-1.816,286.970,335.185,1.942
West,56,-1.124,-2.144,287.405,335.514,2.421
West,57,-0.305,-2.031,286.585,335.401,2.054
West,58,-0.553,-1.927,286.834,335.296,2.005
West,59,-0.604,-2.388,286.884,335.757,2.463
West,60,-0.215,-2.145,286.496,335.514,2.156
West,61,0.031,-2.020,286.250,335.390,2.021
RA Calibration Failed: star did not move enough

Calibration Begins at 2020-06-29 22:59:30
Equipment Profile = asi2
Dither = both axes, Dither scale = 1.000, Image noise reduction = 2x2 mean, Guide-frame time lapse = 0, Server enabled
Pixel scale = unspecified, Binning = 1, Focal length = unspecified
Search region = 15 px, Star mass tolerance = 50.0%
Camera = ZWO ASI224MC, gain = 70, full size = 1304 x 976, have dark, dark dur = 1500, no defect map, pixel size = 3.8 um
Exposure = 1500 ms
Mount = POTH->I_Simulator (ASCOM), Calibration Step = 1171 ms, Calibration Distance = 25 px, Assume orthogonal axes = no
RA Guide Speed = 15.0 a-s/s, Dec Guide Speed = 15.0 a-s/s
RA = 17.10 hr, Dec = -0.0 deg, Hour angle = 0.07 hr, Pier side = Unknown, Rotator pos = N/A, Alt = 88.9 deg, Az = 265.5 deg
Lock position = 885.057, 777.729, Star position = 885.008, 777.647, HFD = 2.38 px
Direction,Step,dx,dy,x,y,Dist
West,0,0.000,0.000,885.053,777.752,0.000
West,1,0.211,0.220,884.842,777.532,0.304
West,2,-0.032,0.049,885.085,777.703,0.058
West,3,-0.004,-0.032,885.057,777.783,0.032
West,4,0.013,-0.139,885.040,777.890,0.139
West,5,-0.109,0.058,885.162,777.694,0.123
West,6,0.103,-0.114,884.950,777.866,0.154
West,7,0.030,0.008,885.023,777.743,0.031
West,8,0.083,0.079,884.970,777.673,0.114
West,9,0.034,-0.011,885.019,777.763,0.036
West,10,0.002,-0.067,885.051,777.819,0.067
West,11,0.065,0.034,884.988,777.718,0.073
West,12,0.042,-0.106,885.011,777.858,0.115
West,13,0.026,0.004,885.027,777.748,0.027
West,14,0.067,-0.221,884.986,777.973,0.231
West,15,0.056,0.041,884.997,777.711,0.069
West,16,0.050,0.037,885.003,777.715,0.062
West,17,0.036,-0.005,885.017,777.757,0.036
West,18,-0.080,0.229,885.133,777.523,0.243
West,19,0.045,-0.118,885.008,777.870,0.127
West,20,0.036,0.038,885.017,777.713,0.053
West,21,0.059,0.021,884.994,777.731,0.062
West,22,-0.021,-0.105,885.074,777.856,0.107
West,23,0.078,-0.064,884.975,777.816,0.101
West,24,0.095,0.035,884.958,777.717,0.101
West,25,0.110,-0.061,884.943,777.812,0.126
West,26,0.060,-0.014,884.993,777.766,0.062
West,27,0.050,-0.020,885.003,777.772,0.054
West,28,0.039,0.015,885.014,777.737,0.042
West,29,0.014,-0.079,885.039,777.831,0.080
West,30,0.042,-0.040,885.011,777.791,0.058
West,31,0.078,-0.015,884.975,777.767,0.080
West,32,-0.043,-0.108,885.096,777.860,0.116
West,33,-0.131,0.006,885.184,777.745,0.131
West,34,0.048,-0.036,885.005,777.788,0.060
West,35,0.106,-0.302,884.947,778.054,0.320
West,36,-0.110,-0.037,885.163,777.789,0.116
West,37,-0.117,0.005,885.170,777.747,0.117
West,38,0.053,-0.035,885.000,777.786,0.063
West,39,-0.017,-0.030,885.070,777.782,0.034
West,40,0.096,0.085,884.957,777.666,0.128
West,41,0.050,-0.128,885.003,777.880,0.138
West,42,-0.068,0.063,885.121,777.688,0.093
West,43,0.147,0.164,884.906,777.587,0.220
West,44,0.126,-0.139,884.927,777.890,0.187
West,45,0.194,0.166,884.859,777.586,0.255
West,46,-0.043,0.024,885.096,777.728,0.049
West,47,0.071,0.073,884.982,777.679,0.102
West,48,0.145,0.020,884.908,777.731,0.147
West,49,0.000,0.072,885.053,777.680,0.072
West,50,0.089,0.077,884.964,777.675,0.118
West,51,0.058,0.002,884.995,777.750,0.058
West,52,0.094,0.056,884.959,777.696,0.109
West,53,0.028,-0.003,885.025,777.755,0.028
West,54,0.078,0.228,884.975,777.524,0.241
West,55,0.181,0.104,884.872,777.648,0.208
West,56,0.655,-0.396,884.399,778.148,0.765
West,57,0.035,-0.003,885.018,777.755,0.035
West,58,0.035,-0.109,885.018,777.860,0.114
West,59,0.191,-0.178,884.862,777.929,0.261
West,60,0.061,-0.244,884.992,777.996,0.251
West,61,0.053,-0.186,885.000,777.938,0.194
RA Calibration Failed: star did not move enough

Calibration Begins at 2020-06-29 23:02:52
Equipment Profile = asi2
Dither = both axes, Dither scale = 1.000, Image noise reduction = 2x2 mean, Guide-frame time lapse = 0, Server enabled
Pixel scale = unspecified, Binning = 1, Focal length = unspecified
Search region = 15 px, Star mass tolerance = 50.0%
Camera = ZWO ASI224MC, gain = 70, full size = 1304 x 976, have dark, dark dur = 1500, no defect map, pixel size = 3.8 um
Exposure = 1500 ms
Mount = On Camera, Calibration Step = 1171 ms, Calibration Distance = 25 px, Assume orthogonal axes = no
RA Guide Speed = Unknown, Dec Guide Speed = Unknown
RA/Dec = Unknown, Hour angle = Unknown, Pier side = Unknown, Rotator pos = N/A, Alt = Unknown, Az = Unknown
Lock position = 284.623, 339.302, Star position = 284.386, 339.341, HFD = 4.87 px
Direction,Step,dx,dy,x,y,Dist
West,0,0.000,0.000,284.550,339.605,0.000
West,1,-0.134,0.331,284.684,339.274,0.357
West,2,0.277,-0.178,284.273,339.783,0.329
West,3,0.297,-0.284,284.253,339.889,0.411
West,4,-0.049,-0.206,284.599,339.810,0.211
West,5,-0.216,0.676,284.766,338.929,0.710
West,6,-0.508,-0.343,285.058,339.947,0.613
West,7,0.053,0.080,284.497,339.525,0.096
West,8,0.034,-0.316,284.516,339.921,0.318
West,9,-0.363,-0.251,284.913,339.856,0.442
West,10,0.177,-0.049,284.373,339.653,0.183
West,11,-0.279,-0.609,284.829,340.214,0.670
West,12,-0.201,-0.387,284.751,339.991,0.436
West,13,-1.029,-0.940,285.579,340.545,1.394
West,14,-0.481,-0.356,285.031,339.961,0.599
West,15,-0.334,-0.723,284.884,340.328,0.796
West,16,-0.485,-1.061,285.034,340.666,1.167
West,17,-0.366,-0.715,284.916,340.320,0.803
West,18,-0.829,-0.713,285.379,340.318,1.093
West,19,-0.396,-1.064,284.945,340.669,1.135
West,20,-0.191,-1.734,284.741,341.339,1.744
West,21,-0.922,-0.910,285.471,340.514,1.295
West,22,-0.713,-1.380,285.263,340.985,1.553
West,23,-1.494,-1.404,286.044,341.008,2.050
West,24,-0.704,-1.341,285.254,340.946,1.514
West,25,-0.925,-2.001,285.475,341.606,2.204
West,26,-1.247,-1.460,285.797,341.065,1.920
West,27,-0.747,-1.820,285.297,341.425,1.967
West,28,-0.530,-1.603,285.080,341.208,1.688
West,29,-0.490,-1.895,285.040,341.500,1.957
West,30,-1.315,-1.876,285.865,341.481,2.291
West,31,-1.558,-1.712,286.108,341.317,2.314
West,32,-1.156,-1.779,285.706,341.384,2.122
West,33,-0.904,-1.363,285.454,340.968,1.635
West,34,-0.784,-1.958,285.334,341.563,2.109
West,35,-1.219,-1.902,285.769,341.507,2.259
West,36,-1.127,-1.994,285.677,341.599,2.290
West,37,-0.974,-2.511,285.524,342.116,2.693
West,38,-0.661,-2.094,285.210,341.699,2.195
West,39,-1.678,-2.002,286.228,341.607,2.612
West,40,-1.203,-2.373,285.753,341.978,2.661
West,41,-1.141,-2.314,285.691,341.919,2.580
West,42,-1.228,-2.306,285.778,341.910,2.612
West,43,-0.850,-2.368,285.399,341.973,2.516
West,44,-1.656,-2.350,286.206,341.954,2.875
West,45,-1.319,-2.284,285.869,341.889,2.638
West,46,-1.224,-2.881,285.774,342.486,3.131
West,47,-1.254,-3.004,285.804,342.609,3.255
West,48,-1.139,-2.839,285.689,342.443,3.058
West,49,-1.566,-2.811,286.116,342.416,3.218
West,50,-0.846,-2.698,285.396,342.303,2.828
West,51,-1.038,-3.524,285.588,343.129,3.674
West,52,-1.783,-3.354,286.333,342.959,3.799
West,53,-2.128,-2.754,286.678,342.358,3.480
West,54,-1.010,-2.738,285.560,342.343,2.918
West,55,-1.509,-2.729,286.059,342.334,3.118
West,56,-1.782,-3.667,286.332,343.272,4.077
West,57,-1.452,-3.616,286.002,343.220,3.896
West,58,-1.270,-3.858,285.820,343.463,4.062
West,59,-1.595,-3.392,286.144,342.997,3.748
West,60,-1.867,-3.371,286.417,342.976,3.854
West,61,-1.796,-3.550,286.346,343.155,3.979
RA Calibration Failed: star did not move enough

Calibration Begins at 2020-06-29 23:06:19
Equipment Profile = asi2
Dither = both axes, Dither scale = 1.000, Image noise reduction = 2x2 mean, Guide-frame time lapse = 0, Server enabled
Pixel scale = unspecified, Binning = 1, Focal length = unspecified
Search region = 15 px, Star mass tolerance = 50.0%
Camera = ZWO ASI224MC, gain = 70, full size = 1304 x 976, have dark, dark dur = 1500, no defect map, pixel size = 3.8 um
Exposure = 1500 ms
Mount = Hub->I_Simulator (ASCOM), Calibration Step = 1171 ms, Calibration Distance = 25 px, Assume orthogonal axes = no
RA Guide Speed = 15.0 a-s/s, Dec Guide Speed = 15.0 a-s/s
RA = 17.10 hr, Dec = -0.0 deg, Hour angle = 0.19 hr, Pier side = Unknown, Rotator pos = N/A, Alt = 87.2 deg, Az = 268.3 deg
Lock position = 286.495, 343.475, Star position = 286.495, 343.475, HFD = 5.10 px
Direction,Step,dx,dy,x,y,Dist
West,0,0.000,0.000,287.114,344.432,0.000
West,1,-0.569,-0.195,287.684,344.627,0.602
West,2,0.036,-0.086,287.079,344.518,0.093
West,3,0.091,-0.204,287.023,344.636,0.223
West,4,-0.512,0.189,287.626,344.243,0.546
West,5,0.504,-0.171,286.610,344.603,0.532
West,6,0.237,-0.258,286.877,344.690,0.351
West,7,0.027,-0.086,287.088,344.519,0.090
West,8,-0.302,-0.336,287.417,344.769,0.452
West,9,-0.435,0.425,287.549,344.007,0.608
West,10,-0.212,0.287,287.326,344.145,0.357
West,11,0.093,0.130,287.022,344.302,0.160
West,12,0.032,-0.103,287.082,344.535,0.108
West,13,-0.450,0.283,287.564,344.149,0.532
West,14,-0.307,-0.154,287.421,344.587,0.344
West,15,-0.533,-0.606,287.648,345.038,0.807
West,16,-0.141,-0.660,287.255,345.092,0.675
West,17,-0.506,-0.262,287.620,344.694,0.569
West,18,-0.230,-0.339,287.344,344.772,0.410
West,19,0.483,-0.602,286.631,345.034,0.772
West,20,0.131,-0.422,286.984,344.854,0.442
West,21,-0.094,-0.456,287.208,344.888,0.465
West,22,-0.264,-0.519,287.378,344.951,0.582
West,23,-0.373,-0.473,287.487,344.905,0.602
West,24,0.186,-0.224,286.929,344.657,0.291
West,25,-0.674,-0.142,287.789,344.574,0.689
West,26,-0.607,-0.111,287.721,344.544,0.617
West,27,-0.792,-0.479,287.906,344.912,0.926
West,28,-0.483,-0.669,287.597,345.101,0.825
West,29,-0.633,-0.858,287.747,345.290,1.066
West,30,-0.392,-0.860,287.506,345.292,0.945
West,31,-0.737,-0.868,287.851,345.300,1.138
West,32,-0.670,-0.893,287.784,345.325,1.116
West,33,-0.339,-1.046,287.453,345.479,1.100
West,34,-0.840,-1.373,287.955,345.805,1.610
West,35,-0.817,-1.187,287.931,345.619,1.440
West,36,-0.122,-1.098,287.236,345.530,1.105
West,37,-0.503,-1.186,287.618,345.618,1.288
West,38,-0.704,-1.643,287.818,346.075,1.787
West,39,-0.247,-1.156,287.361,345.589,1.182
West,40,-0.982,-1.877,288.097,346.310,2.119
West,41,-1.107,-1.255,288.221,345.687,1.674
West,42,-0.895,-1.709,288.009,346.141,1.929
West,43,-0.557,-1.456,287.672,345.889,1.559
West,44,-1.091,-2.043,288.206,346.475,2.316
West,45,-1.487,-1.763,288.602,346.195,2.307
West,46,-0.636,-1.403,287.750,345.835,1.540
West,47,-0.568,-1.780,287.682,346.212,1.868
West,48,-0.644,-1.606,287.759,346.038,1.730
West,49,-1.170,-1.454,288.285,345.886,1.866
West,50,-0.904,-1.876,288.019,346.308,2.083
West,51,-0.476,-2.040,287.591,346.472,2.095
West,52,-0.793,-1.380,287.908,345.813,1.592
West,53,-0.627,-1.819,287.741,346.251,1.924
West,54,-1.488,-1.732,288.602,346.164,2.283
West,55,-0.949,-1.900,288.063,346.332,2.124
West,56,-1.159,-2.501,288.274,346.933,2.757
West,57,-0.943,-2.136,288.057,346.568,2.335
West,58,-1.178,-2.088,288.293,346.521,2.398
West,59,-0.763,-2.368,287.878,346.800,2.488
West,60,-0.986,-2.469,288.100,346.901,2.658
West,61,-1.432,-2.428,288.547,346.860,2.819
RA Calibration Failed: star did not move enough

Calibration Begins at 2020-06-29 23:09:36
Equipment Profile = asi2
Dither = both axes, Dither scale = 1.000, Image noise reduction = 2x2 mean, Guide-frame time lapse = 0, Server enabled
Pixel scale = unspecified, Binning = 1, Focal length = unspecified
Search region = 15 px, Star mass tolerance = 50.0%
Camera = ZWO ASI224MC, gain = 70, full size = 1304 x 976, have dark, dark dur = 1500, no defect map, pixel size = 3.8 um
Exposure = 1500 ms
Mount = POTH->I_Simulator (ASCOM), Calibration Step = 1171 ms, Calibration Distance = 25 px, Assume orthogonal axes = no
RA Guide Speed = 15.0 a-s/s, Dec Guide Speed = 15.0 a-s/s
RA = 17.10 hr, Dec = -0.0 deg, Hour angle = 0.24 hr, Pier side = Unknown, Rotator pos = N/A, Alt = 86.4 deg, Az = 268.6 deg
Lock position = 882.242, 277.196, Star position = 882.242, 277.196, HFD = 4.44 px
Direction,Step,dx,dy,x,y,Dist
West,0,0.000,0.000,881.848,277.356,0.000
West,1,-0.300,0.063,882.148,277.292,0.307
West,2,-0.475,-0.277,882.324,277.632,0.550
West,3,-0.165,-0.483,882.013,277.838,0.510
West,4,0.439,-0.914,881.409,278.270,1.014
West,5,-0.177,-0.534,882.025,277.890,0.563
West,6,0.203,-0.504,881.645,277.860,0.543
West,7,-0.196,-0.491,882.044,277.847,0.529
West,8,0.405,-0.435,881.443,277.790,0.594
West,9,0.076,-0.619,881.772,277.975,0.624
West,10,-0.148,-0.268,881.996,277.624,0.306
West,11,0.204,0.267,881.644,277.088,0.336
West,12,0.450,-0.705,881.398,278.060,0.836
West,13,-0.370,-0.584,882.218,277.940,0.691
West,14,-0.520,-0.682,882.368,278.037,0.857
West,15,-0.045,-0.460,881.893,277.816,0.462
West,16,0.494,0.072,881.354,277.284,0.499
West,17,0.105,-0.375,881.743,277.731,0.390
West,18,0.021,-0.535,881.827,277.890,0.535
West,19,-0.190,-0.490,882.038,277.845,0.525
West,20,0.725,-0.859,881.123,278.214,1.124
West,21,0.100,-0.048,881.748,277.404,0.111
West,22,-0.535,-0.527,882.383,277.882,0.751
West,23,0.037,-0.871,881.811,278.226,0.871
West,24,0.561,-0.624,881.287,277.980,0.839
West,25,0.604,-0.624,881.244,277.979,0.868
West,26,-0.226,-0.479,882.074,277.835,0.529
West,27,0.749,-1.107,881.099,278.462,1.336
West,28,0.167,-1.288,881.682,278.644,1.299
West,29,0.178,-0.932,881.670,278.288,0.949
West,30,0.339,-1.235,881.509,278.591,1.281
West,31,0.419,-1.162,881.430,278.518,1.235
West,32,0.413,-1.299,881.436,278.654,1.363
West,33,0.013,-0.560,881.835,277.916,0.560
West,34,0.505,-1.552,881.343,278.908,1.632
West,35,0.527,-1.342,881.321,278.698,1.442
West,36,-0.214,-1.097,882.062,278.453,1.118
West,37,-0.019,-1.188,881.868,278.544,1.188
West,38,0.613,-0.807,881.235,278.162,1.013
West,39,0.038,-0.666,881.810,278.021,0.667
West,40,0.919,-1.790,880.929,279.146,2.012
West,41,0.454,-1.617,881.395,278.973,1.679
West,42,0.350,-1.371,881.498,278.727,1.415
West,43,0.764,-2.395,881.085,279.750,2.513
West,44,0.231,-0.887,881.617,278.243,0.917
West,45,0.874,-1.397,880.975,278.753,1.648
West,46,0.260,-1.171,881.588,278.526,1.199
West,47,0.141,-1.590,881.707,278.946,1.597
West,48,0.766,-1.599,881.082,278.955,1.773
West,49,0.348,-2.140,881.500,279.496,2.168
West,50,0.883,-1.369,880.966,278.725,1.629
West,51,0.376,-1.813,881.472,279.169,1.851
West,52,0.316,-1.947,881.532,279.302,1.972
West,53,0.628,-1.509,881.221,278.864,1.634
West,54,0.591,-1.498,881.257,278.853,1.610
West,55,0.075,-1.494,881.773,278.849,1.496
West,56,-0.304,-1.817,882.152,279.173,1.842
West,57,-0.217,-1.952,882.065,279.308,1.964
West,58,0.826,-1.746,881.022,279.102,1.932
West,59,0.321,-2.150,881.527,279.506,2.174
West,60,-0.064,-1.856,881.912,279.211,1.857
West,61,0.039,-2.056,881.809,279.412,2.056
RA Calibration Failed: star did not move enough

Log Summary: calcnt:0 gcnt:0 gdur:0 gacnt:0
Log closed at 2020-06-29 23:12:43
PHD2 version 2.6.8 [Windows], Log version 2.5. Log enabled at 2020-06-29 22:55:51

Calibration Begins at 2020-06-29 23:13:48
Equipment Profile = asi2
Dither = both axes, Dither scale = 1.000, Image noise reduction = 2x2 mean, Guide-frame time lapse = 0, Server enabled
Pixel scale = unspecified, Binning = 1, Focal length = unspecified
Search region = 15 px, Star mass tolerance = 50.0%
Camera = ZWO ASI224MC, gain = 70, full size = 1304 x 976, have dark, dark dur = 1500, no defect map, pixel size = 3.8 um
Exposure = 1500 ms
Mount = ZWO USBST4 (ASCOM), Calibration Step = 1171 ms, Calibration Distance = 25 px, Assume orthogonal axes = no
RA Guide Speed = Unknown, Dec Guide Speed = Unknown
RA/Dec = Unknown, Hour angle = Unknown, Pier side = Unknown, Rotator pos = N/A, Alt = Unknown, Az = Unknown
Lock position = 286.901, 353.265, Star position = 286.914, 353.365, HFD = 5.58 px
Direction,Step,dx,dy,x,y,Dist
West,0,0.000,0.000,286.823,353.110,0.000
West,1,0.257,0.214,286.566,352.896,0.335
West,2,-0.195,-0.236,287.017,353.346,0.306
West,3,-0.295,0.218,287.118,352.892,0.367
West,4,0.193,-0.198,286.629,353.308,0.277
West,5,-0.034,-0.295,286.857,353.405,0.297
PHD2 version 2.6.8 [Windows], Log version 2.5. Log enabled at 2020-06-29 22:55:51

Calibration Begins at 2020-06-29 23:15:18
Equipment Profile = asi2
Dither = both axes, Dither scale = 1.000, Image noise reduction = 2x2 mean, Guide-frame time lapse = 0, Server enabled
Pixel scale = unspecified, Binning = 1, Focal length = unspecified
Search region = 15 px, Star mass tolerance = 50.0%
Camera = ZWO ASI224MC, gain = 70, full size = 1304 x 976, have dark, dark dur = 1500, no defect map, pixel size = 3.8 um
Exposure = 1500 ms
Mount = POTH->I_Simulator (ASCOM), Calibration Step = 1171 ms, Calibration Distance = 25 px, Assume orthogonal axes = no
RA Guide Speed = 15.0 a-s/s, Dec Guide Speed = 15.0 a-s/s
RA = 17.10 hr, Dec = -0.0 deg, Hour angle = 0.34 hr, Pier side = Unknown, Rotator pos = N/A, Alt = 84.9 deg, Az = 269.0 deg
Lock position = 881.501, 283.412, Star position = 881.065, 283.722, HFD = 5.01 px
Direction,Step,dx,dy,x,y,Dist
West,0,0.000,0.000,881.401,283.759,0.000
West,1,-0.214,0.379,881.614,283.381,0.435
West,2,-0.223,-0.156,881.624,283.916,0.272
West,3,0.154,-0.424,881.246,284.183,0.451
West,4,-0.278,-0.309,881.678,284.068,0.415
West,5,-0.252,0.176,881.652,283.583,0.307
West,6,0.199,-0.873,881.202,284.632,0.895
West,7,0.196,-0.370,881.205,284.129,0.418
West,8,-0.437,-0.400,881.837,284.159,0.592
West,9,-0.047,-0.800,881.448,284.559,0.801
West,10,-0.911,-0.293,882.311,284.052,0.956
West,11,-0.920,-0.833,882.320,284.592,1.241
West,12,-0.913,-0.386,882.313,284.145,0.991
West,13,-0.551,-1.307,881.951,285.066,1.418
West,14,-0.757,-1.131,882.157,284.890,1.361
West,15,-1.179,-0.476,882.580,284.235,1.272
West,16,-1.309,-0.167,882.709,283.926,1.319
West,17,-0.283,-1.064,881.684,284.823,1.101
West,18,-0.360,-0.959,881.760,284.718,1.024
West,19,-0.395,-0.404,881.795,284.163,0.565
West,20,-0.868,-0.814,882.269,284.573,1.190
West,21,-0.566,-0.769,881.966,284.528,0.955
West,22,-0.672,-0.739,882.073,284.498,0.999
West,23,-0.379,-1.410,881.779,285.169,1.460
West,24,-0.849,-1.195,882.249,284.955,1.466
West,25,-1.042,-1.356,882.442,285.116,1.710
West,26,-1.026,-1.274,882.426,285.033,1.636
West,27,-0.747,-1.722,882.148,285.481,1.877
West,28,-1.583,-1.387,882.983,285.146,2.105
West,29,-1.537,-1.741,882.937,285.500,2.322
West,30,-0.371,-1.357,881.772,285.116,1.407
West,31,-0.590,-2.121,881.991,285.880,2.202
West,32,-1.248,-1.254,882.648,285.013,1.769
West,33,-1.059,-1.714,882.459,285.473,2.014
West,34,-2.047,-1.577,883.447,285.336,2.584
West,35,-1.260,-2.012,882.660,285.771,2.374
West,36,-0.795,-2.044,882.195,285.803,2.193
West,37,-0.650,-2.034,882.050,285.793,2.135
West,38,-0.814,-1.814,882.214,285.573,1.988
West,39,-0.660,-2.061,882.061,285.820,2.164
West,40,-0.523,-2.213,881.924,285.972,2.274
West,41,-1.588,-2.147,882.988,285.907,2.671
West,42,-1.131,-1.970,882.532,285.729,2.272
West,43,-0.877,-2.833,882.277,286.593,2.966
West,44,-1.277,-2.051,882.678,285.811,2.417
West,45,-1.994,-2.332,883.394,286.091,3.068
West,46,-1.174,-2.463,882.575,286.222,2.728
West,47,-1.030,-1.961,882.431,285.721,2.215
West,48,-1.523,-1.948,882.923,285.708,2.473
West,49,-1.316,-1.852,882.717,285.611,2.272
West,50,-1.562,-2.309,882.963,286.068,2.788
West,51,-0.966,-2.250,882.366,286.009,2.449
West,52,-0.779,-2.343,882.180,286.103,2.469
West,53,-1.248,-1.730,882.649,285.490,2.134
West,54,-0.876,-2.952,882.276,286.711,3.079
West,55,-1.316,-2.160,882.716,285.919,2.529
West,56,-1.201,-2.487,882.602,286.247,2.762
West,57,-1.649,-2.861,883.050,286.620,3.302
West,58,-0.842,-2.844,882.243,286.603,2.966
West,59,-1.360,-2.834,882.761,286.593,3.144
West,60,-1.014,-3.039,882.414,286.798,3.204
West,61,-1.569,-2.705,882.970,286.464,3.127
RA Calibration Failed: star did not move enough

Calibration Begins at 2020-06-29 23:18:59
Equipment Profile = asi2
Dither = both axes, Dither scale = 1.000, Image noise reduction = 2x2 mean, Guide-frame time lapse = 0, Server enabled
Pixel scale = unspecified, Binning = 1, Focal length = unspecified
Search region = 15 px, Star mass tolerance = 50.0%
Camera = ZWO ASI224MC, gain = 70, full size = 1304 x 976, have dark, dark dur = 1500, no defect map, pixel size = 3.8 um
Exposure = 1500 ms
Mount = GPINT, Calibration Step = 1171 ms, Calibration Distance = 25 px, Assume orthogonal axes = no
RA Guide Speed = Unknown, Dec Guide Speed = Unknown
RA/Dec = Unknown, Hour angle = Unknown, Pier side = Unknown, Rotator pos = N/A, Alt = Unknown, Az = Unknown
Lock position = 883.155, 288.540, Star position = 883.155, 288.540, HFD = 5.21 px
Direction,Step,dx,dy,x,y,Dist
West,0,0.000,0.000,884.312,289.000,0.000
West,1,0.631,-0.499,883.681,289.499,0.805
West,2,1.096,-0.681,883.217,289.681,1.290
West,3,0.745,0.006,883.568,288.994,0.745
West,4,0.464,0.091,883.848,288.909,0.473
West,5,0.502,-0.638,883.810,289.638,0.812
West,6,0.702,-0.810,883.611,289.810,1.072
West,7,0.525,-0.420,883.788,289.420,0.672
West,8,0.574,-0.373,883.738,289.373,0.685
West,9,0.570,-0.398,883.743,289.398,0.695
West,10,1.090,-0.875,883.222,289.875,1.398
West,11,0.546,-0.504,883.767,289.504,0.743
West,12,-0.270,-1.075,884.582,290.075,1.109
West,13,0.500,-1.001,883.812,290.001,1.119
West,14,0.355,-2.020,883.958,291.020,2.051
West,15,-0.338,-0.893,884.651,289.893,0.955
West,16,0.694,-1.287,883.618,290.287,1.462
West,17,0.122,-1.149,884.190,290.149,1.156
West,18,0.478,-0.678,883.834,289.678,0.830
West,19,0.049,-0.169,884.263,289.169,0.176
West,20,0.486,-1.326,883.826,290.326,1.413
West,21,-0.004,-1.485,884.317,290.485,1.485
West,22,0.368,-2.072,883.945,291.072,2.104
West,23,0.400,-1.573,883.913,290.573,1.623
West,24,0.683,-1.583,883.629,290.583,1.724
West,25,0.447,-0.930,883.865,289.930,1.032
West,26,0.499,-1.476,883.813,290.476,1.558
West,27,0.316,-1.868,883.997,290.868,1.894
West,28,0.427,-1.473,883.886,290.473,1.533
West,29,0.242,-1.341,884.071,290.341,1.363
West,30,0.191,-1.767,884.121,290.767,1.777
West,31,-0.283,-1.824,884.596,290.824,1.846
West,32,0.464,-1.559,883.849,290.559,1.626
West,33,0.479,-2.215,883.834,291.215,2.266
West,34,0.010,-1.810,884.302,290.810,1.810
West,35,0.645,-1.648,883.667,290.648,1.770
West,36,-0.003,-2.173,884.315,291.173,2.173
West,37,0.683,-2.204,883.630,291.204,2.307
West,38,0.905,-2.342,883.408,291.342,2.510
West,39,1.431,-2.090,882.882,291.090,2.533
West,40,0.617,-2.432,883.695,291.432,2.509
West,41,1.078,-2.204,883.234,291.204,2.453
West,42,0.656,-2.924,883.656,291.924,2.997
West,43,1.361,-2.544,882.952,291.544,2.885
West,44,0.762,-2.455,883.551,291.455,2.570
West,45,0.876,-2.998,883.436,291.998,3.123
West,46,0.456,-2.292,883.856,291.292,2.337
West,47,0.671,-2.907,883.641,291.907,2.984
West,48,1.604,-2.929,882.709,291.929,3.340
West,49,0.531,-3.498,883.782,292.498,3.538
West,50,0.815,-2.862,883.497,291.862,2.976
West,51,0.635,-3.207,883.678,292.207,3.269
West,52,0.499,-3.041,883.813,292.041,3.081
West,53,0.776,-3.112,883.537,292.112,3.207
West,54,1.058,-3.068,883.255,292.068,3.245
West,55,0.825,-2.999,883.488,291.999,3.111
West,56,0.759,-3.297,883.553,292.297,3.384
West,57,1.245,-3.500,883.067,292.500,3.714
West,58,1.091,-3.436,883.221,292.436,3.605
West,59,1.207,-3.568,883.106,292.568,3.766
West,60,1.651,-3.585,882.661,292.585,3.947
West,61,1.457,-3.587,882.855,292.587,3.872
RA Calibration Failed: star did not move enough

Calibration Begins at 2020-06-29 23:23:05
Equipment Profile = asi2
Dither = both axes, Dither scale = 1.000, Image noise reduction = 2x2 mean, Guide-frame time lapse = 0, Server enabled
Pixel scale = unspecified, Binning = 1, Focal length = unspecified
Search region = 15 px, Star mass tolerance = 50.0%
Camera = ZWO ASI224MC, gain = 70, full size = 1304 x 976, have dark, dark dur = 1500, no defect map, pixel size = 3.8 um
Exposure = 1500 ms
Mount = On Camera, Calibration Step = 1171 ms, Calibration Distance = 25 px, Assume orthogonal axes = no
RA Guide Speed = Unknown, Dec Guide Speed = Unknown
RA/Dec = Unknown, Hour angle = Unknown, Pier side = Unknown, Rotator pos = N/A, Alt = Unknown, Az = Unknown
Lock position = 883.153, 292.941, Star position = 882.547, 294.195, HFD = 5.09 px
Direction,Step,dx,dy,x,y,Dist
West,0,0.000,0.000,882.253,294.165,0.000
West,1,0.307,-0.089,881.946,294.253,0.319
West,2,-0.439,0.155,882.691,294.010,0.465
West,3,0.289,0.029,881.963,294.136,0.291
West,4,-0.326,0.310,882.579,293.855,0.450
West,5,-0.311,-0.067,882.563,294.231,0.318
West,6,-0.363,0.393,882.616,293.771,0.536
West,7,-0.416,0.124,882.669,294.041,0.434
West,8,-0.023,-0.240,882.276,294.405,0.241
West,9,-0.549,-0.301,882.802,294.465,0.626
West,10,-1.157,-0.056,883.410,294.221,1.158
West,11,-0.439,-0.858,882.692,295.023,0.964
West,12,-0.605,-0.916,882.857,295.081,1.098
West,13,-0.582,-0.835,882.835,294.999,1.017
West,14,-0.427,-0.791,882.679,294.956,0.899
West,15,-0.729,-1.014,882.982,295.179,1.249
West,16,-0.562,-0.358,882.815,294.523,0.666
West,17,-0.851,-0.873,883.104,295.037,1.219
West,18,0.047,-1.289,882.206,295.454,1.290
West,19,-1.021,-1.056,883.274,295.221,1.469
West,20,-0.190,-1.239,882.443,295.403,1.253
West,21,-0.488,-0.380,882.741,294.544,0.618
West,22,-0.532,-1.003,882.785,295.168,1.136
West,23,0.076,-1.136,882.176,295.300,1.138
West,24,-0.986,-1.706,883.239,295.871,1.971
West,25,-0.576,-1.209,882.829,295.374,1.339
West,26,-0.840,-0.819,883.093,294.983,1.173
West,27,-0.319,-1.027,882.572,295.191,1.075
West,28,-1.159,-1.137,883.412,295.302,1.624
West,29,-0.692,-1.473,882.945,295.638,1.628
West,30,0.077,-1.597,882.176,295.762,1.599
West,31,-0.580,-2.194,882.833,296.358,2.269
West,32,-0.517,-1.021,882.770,295.186,1.145
West,33,-0.832,-1.188,883.085,295.352,1.450
West,34,-0.675,-1.699,882.928,295.863,1.828
West,35,-0.872,-1.655,883.125,295.820,1.871
West,36,-1.287,-1.636,883.540,295.800,2.082
West,37,-0.491,-1.998,882.744,296.163,2.058
West,38,-1.228,-1.726,883.481,295.891,2.118
West,39,-0.957,-1.554,883.210,295.718,1.825
West,40,-0.757,-1.648,883.010,295.813,1.814
West,41,-1.160,-1.854,883.413,296.019,2.187
West,42,-1.235,-1.931,883.488,296.096,2.292
West,43,-1.347,-2.404,883.600,296.569,2.755
West,44,-0.906,-2.389,883.159,296.553,2.555
West,45,-1.059,-2.432,883.312,296.597,2.653
West,46,-1.236,-2.457,883.489,296.622,2.750
West,47,-1.083,-2.422,883.336,296.587,2.654
West,48,-0.583,-2.917,882.836,297.082,2.975
West,49,-1.728,-2.597,883.980,296.761,3.119
West,50,-1.190,-2.323,883.443,296.488,2.610
West,51,-1.525,-2.468,883.778,296.633,2.901
West,52,-1.781,-3.008,884.033,297.172,3.495
West,53,-1.505,-2.923,883.758,297.088,3.287
West,54,-2.230,-3.648,884.483,297.812,4.275
West,55,-1.943,-2.945,884.196,297.110,3.529
West,56,-1.774,-3.390,884.027,297.555,3.827
West,57,-2.012,-3.624,884.265,297.789,4.145
West,58,-2.080,-3.605,884.333,297.769,4.162
West,59,-1.946,-3.463,884.199,297.628,3.973
West,60,-2.610,-3.589,884.863,297.753,4.437
West,61,-2.276,-3.835,884.529,298.000,4.459
RA Calibration Failed: star did not move enough

Log closed at 2020-06-29 23:42:09
PHD2 version 2.6.8 [Windows], Log version 2.5. Log enabled at 2020-06-29 22:55:51

Re: returning to the hobby, struggling with PHD2/guiding

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:12 pm
by KenGS
You'll need to tell us what sort of mount you have and how you have it wired up. I can see from the log that you tried a variety of drivers for the mount but none of them worked. Basically the mount was not moving at all. If we know what the mount is we could point you towards the correct driver.

Re: returning to the hobby, struggling with PHD2/guiding

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:47 pm
by graywmj5
Ken,

The mount is the Meade LX85. My guide camera is the ASI 1224, Guide scope is the ZWO mini scope. I have been running the USB from the guide scope through the back of my main camera, the ASI 183. I have not tried hooking the guide camera directly to my laptop. I have tried it with and without the J11 running from the guide port to the camera. Please let me know what other detail i need to include.

Thanks, Bill

Re: returning to the hobby, struggling with PHD2/guiding

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:27 pm
by yobbo89
Pixel scale = unspecified, Binning = 1, Focal length = unspecified

this might be a problem ,copied from your log .

phd needs to know your guide scope focal length so it can work out the pixel scale / arc seconds and how much to move the scope when correcting .

all in all, there many are reason why it could be failing, bad connection to the mount , the guide camera isn't updateing ie it is frozen , incorrect guiding command speed/settings .


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Re: returning to the hobby, struggling with PHD2/guiding

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:31 pm
by graywmj5
Thanks!

Re: returning to the hobby, struggling with PHD2/guiding

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:42 pm
by yobbo89
RA Guide Speed = Unknown, Dec Guide Speed = Unknown
RA/Dec = Unknown, Hour angle = Unknown, Pier side = Unknown, Rotator pos = N/A, Alt = Unknown, Az = Unknown

another copied part of your log

the fact that phd hasn't shown the position of the mount gives me an indication that phd isn't talking to it,

you should see if phd can talk to the mount, there is an option to move the mount ,'' manual guide" you can also try the drift alighnment tool in phd, this will talk to the mount and give it coordinates to slew to .

Re: returning to the hobby, struggling with PHD2/guiding

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:51 pm
by graywmj5
okay, thanks again. just for some history, I was able to get this setup to guide properly during my last attempt in May. It was the same gear. I don't recall the exact configuration I used at that time.

Thanks for your advice!

Bill

Re: returning to the hobby, struggling with PHD2/guiding

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:54 pm
by graywmj5
i have determined that there is no communication between my laptop and the mount under any setting or combination of settings. The camera works fine. I do see that the USB i am using to connect the ASI1830 to my laptop is a 3.0, and the USB connecting the ASI1224(guide scope) is the old style 2.0. I am going to get the 3.0 for that and see if it helps. No idea that it will correct the issue. I am wondering if there is an issue with the mount, which I doubt. Is there a diagnostic?

Thanks again for any help,

Bill

Re: returning to the hobby, struggling with PHD2/guiding

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:49 pm
by yobbo89
i'm too familiar with meade software , can you get other software to communicate with the mount ?

typicaly you connect the mount to the computer with it's native software, then boot up phd and select the mount driver ( typicaly ascom) and connect the mount with the default programing running in the background .

aslo double check your com ports , sometimes they change .

Re: returning to the hobby, struggling with PHD2/guiding

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:00 pm
by JayTee
Please refer to the best practices link in this post and read it, thank you.
viewtopic.php?f=42&t=2276

Cheers,
JT