Collimating Secondary Mirror Question
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Collimating Secondary Mirror Question
Hello Everyone,
I think I'm finally starting to understand collimation!
I bought a laser collimator today and after watching a couple of videos the procedure seems pretty straight forward.
One of the videos I watched said the secondary mirror needed to be centered first or the laser would not work or it would give false results. After watching the whole video it made perfect sense. He used a webcam to look down the focus tube to center the secondary mirror then used the laser to do the primary mirror.
Question: Is there a lens I can mount on my ASI183 pro that would let me focus on the secondary mirror? I see two lenses on the ZWO website but there are no clear descriptions of what they do.
Thanks!
Bill
I think I'm finally starting to understand collimation!
I bought a laser collimator today and after watching a couple of videos the procedure seems pretty straight forward.
One of the videos I watched said the secondary mirror needed to be centered first or the laser would not work or it would give false results. After watching the whole video it made perfect sense. He used a webcam to look down the focus tube to center the secondary mirror then used the laser to do the primary mirror.
Question: Is there a lens I can mount on my ASI183 pro that would let me focus on the secondary mirror? I see two lenses on the ZWO website but there are no clear descriptions of what they do.
Thanks!
Bill
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Re: Collimating Secondary Mirror Question
Just use a simple collimation cap to square the secondary. Much easier.
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One of the best references available.
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Re: Collimating Secondary Mirror Question
Haven't seen manicured nails stripping down a focuser before. LOL. It does look like a useful site. I'll have to read her blog.
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Re: Collimating Secondary Mirror Question
If the secondary appears completely round and in the middle of the focus tube it is centred but the laser will not be reflecting of the centre of the mirror. The secondary of my Obsession is marked on its offset position (they supply a template to do it with) the top section of the OTA also has a mark with which you line the focuser up before you install the secondary mirror. After you have installed the secondary you position it till the laser is on its offset mark. This only needs to be checked once a year. After that is done you only have to adjust the secondary mirror until your laser is hitting the centre of the primary, then you adjust the primary until the reflected beam is returning to the centre of the laser. I have a white ring around the laser hole and the inside of the laser hole has been blacken. So my normal collimation consists of inserting the 2" laser in the eyepiece holder, adjusting the three adjusters on the secondary to centre the laser on the primary, lying down and adjust the three adjusters on the primary till minimum reflected light is visible when looking at the laser. I have to do this every time I assemble the scope.
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Re: Collimating Secondary Mirror Question
One of the club members who taught me how to do collimation said if your primary mirror does not come with a center mark for alignment, it's worth the time to take it out and out and mark the center with a sharpie. Once you do that, laser collimation is super fast. Of course you still need to center the secondary mirror but aligning it and the primary are then just a matter of getting the laser spot on the centering dot and then making the final adjustment to the primary. We did my beat up second hand newt' in about five minutes.
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Re: Collimating Secondary Mirror Question
Having the secondary is key though, if it is not you can still align the primary but the telescope will not be collimated properly even though the laser says it is.
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See Far Sticks: Elita 103/1575, AOM FLT 105/1000, Bresser 127/1200 BV, Nočný stopár 152/1200, Vyrobené doma 70/700, Stellarvue NHNG DX 80/552, TAL RS 100/1000, Vixen SD115s/885
EQ: TAL MT-1, Vixen SXP, SXP2, AXJ, AXD
Az/Alt: AYO Digi II, Stellarvue M2C, Argo Navis encoders on both
Tripods: Berlebach Planet (2), Uni 28 Astro, Report 372, TAL factory maple, Vixen ASG-CB90, Vixen AXD-TR102
Diagonals: Astro-Physics, Baader Amici, Baader Herschel, iStar Blue, Stellarvue DX, Tak prism, TAL, Vixen
Eyepieces: Antares to Zeiss (1011110)
The only culture I have is from yogurt
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