Canon Full Frame Compatibility
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Canon Full Frame Compatibility
I know absolutely nothing about telescopes. I’ve spent the last several weeks reading about the various types and the various manufacturers. I can’t really say that I know any more now than I did when I started. One of my interest is Astrophotography. I have a canon 5D full framed camera. I am looking for recommendations for both the type as well as the make and model of telescopes that would suit my needs. Cab I would rather buy the right product right from the start. I am in extreme cheapskate and I’m looking on craigslist and Facebook marketplace for deals. Thanks for your help.
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Re: Canon Full Frame Compatibility
so the canon 5 d has massive pixels if i'm correct, 8.2 um with 13 mega pixel array, a camera / scope resolution calculator puts a 1200 mm fl scope at 1.41''/pixel for imaging resolution, about 1 to 1.5 is a suitable resolution and imaging below 1 requires a little bit better skies and tracking , there are processing tools to help with being undersampled and oversampled once you have collected your data.
I know very little about dslrs with astrophotography ie.. in what's the best choice/brand, but i do know pixel size can lead to sensitivity and theqe efficiently as well,given that the 5 d struggles with a low q.e but i guess the pixel size makes up for it's photon collection,i think most images i see are done with the mk 2 as it has a better qe with a more suitable pixel size.
you'll most likely go through cameras then scopes , best practice would to set out for a scope you can manage and like and build around that. unfortunately a suitable scope for a beginner is something small, lightweight and of shorter focal length with fast optics and a good price.which being at a shorter focal length really hammers on the resolution with that camera because it has large pixels,your stars will be very blocky with low resolution detail. larger pixel cameras are more suitable for longer focal length scopes to get the sampling right,and the longer the focal length scope is then the need for higher degree of tracking and correction and sky conditions.
if that's all you got for a camera then i would look for a scope and get camera with more resolution down the road to match it,
btw i forgot to ask, is that canon 5 d a mark 1 ?
I know very little about dslrs with astrophotography ie.. in what's the best choice/brand, but i do know pixel size can lead to sensitivity and the
you'll most likely go through cameras then scopes , best practice would to set out for a scope you can manage and like and build around that. unfortunately a suitable scope for a beginner is something small, lightweight and of shorter focal length with fast optics and a good price.which being at a shorter focal length really hammers on the resolution with that camera because it has large pixels,your stars will be very blocky with low resolution detail. larger pixel cameras are more suitable for longer focal length scopes to get the sampling right,and the longer the focal length scope is then the need for higher degree of tracking and correction and sky conditions.
if that's all you got for a camera then i would look for a scope and get camera with more resolution down the road to match it,
btw i forgot to ask, is that canon 5 d a mark 1 ?
scopes :gso/bintel f4 12"truss tube, bresser messier ar127s /skywatcher 10'' dob,meade 12'' f10 lx200 sct
cameras : asi 1600mm-c/asi1600mm-c,asi120mc,prostar lp guidecam, nikkon d60, sony a7,asi 290 mm
mounts : eq6 pro/eq8/mesu 200 v2
filters : 2'' astronomik lp/badder lrgb h-a,sII,oIII,h-b,Baader Solar Continuum, chroma 3nm ha,sii,oiii,nii,rgb,lowglow,uv/ir,Thousand Oaks Solar Filter,1.25'' #47 violet,pro planet 742 ir,pro planet 807 ir,pro planet 642 bp ir.
extras : skywatcher f4 aplanatic cc, Baader MPCC MKIII Coma Corrector,Orion Field Flattener,zwo 1.25''adc.starlight maxi 2" 9x filter wheel,tele vue 2x barlow .
cameras : asi 1600mm-c/asi1600mm-c,asi120mc,prostar lp guidecam, nikkon d60, sony a7,asi 290 mm
mounts : eq6 pro/eq8/mesu 200 v2
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extras : skywatcher f4 aplanatic cc, Baader MPCC MKIII Coma Corrector,Orion Field Flattener,zwo 1.25''adc.starlight maxi 2" 9x filter wheel,tele vue 2x barlow .
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Re: Canon Full Frame Compatibility
Thanks. My Canon is a mark II. I am not looking for a beginer telescope. I am looking in the $300 to $500 range and hope I can up the quality by finding a used one.
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What tracking mount do you have? I don't know what the second hand market is like where you are but Maybe an f5 8" newt/astrograph if you can support it? Plus going f5 will be easier and cheaper for coma correction.
scopes :gso/bintel f4 12"truss tube, bresser messier ar127s /skywatcher 10'' dob,meade 12'' f10 lx200 sct
cameras : asi 1600mm-c/asi1600mm-c,asi120mc,prostar lp guidecam, nikkon d60, sony a7,asi 290 mm
mounts : eq6 pro/eq8/mesu 200 v2
filters : 2'' astronomik lp/badder lrgb h-a,sII,oIII,h-b,Baader Solar Continuum, chroma 3nm ha,sii,oiii,nii,rgb,lowglow,uv/ir,Thousand Oaks Solar Filter,1.25'' #47 violet,pro planet 742 ir,pro planet 807 ir,pro planet 642 bp ir.
extras : skywatcher f4 aplanatic cc, Baader MPCC MKIII Coma Corrector,Orion Field Flattener,zwo 1.25''adc.starlight maxi 2" 9x filter wheel,tele vue 2x barlow .
cameras : asi 1600mm-c/asi1600mm-c,asi120mc,prostar lp guidecam, nikkon d60, sony a7,asi 290 mm
mounts : eq6 pro/eq8/mesu 200 v2
filters : 2'' astronomik lp/badder lrgb h-a,sII,oIII,h-b,Baader Solar Continuum, chroma 3nm ha,sii,oiii,nii,rgb,lowglow,uv/ir,Thousand Oaks Solar Filter,1.25'' #47 violet,pro planet 742 ir,pro planet 807 ir,pro planet 642 bp ir.
extras : skywatcher f4 aplanatic cc, Baader MPCC MKIII Coma Corrector,Orion Field Flattener,zwo 1.25''adc.starlight maxi 2" 9x filter wheel,tele vue 2x barlow .
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Re: Canon Full Frame Compatibility
Russ, I presently using both Canon EOS 77D and 80D cameras and so far I've been happy with their astro-image capabilities, especially with respect to single-frame capture. Your Canon 5D should be fine starting out though "technically", spec-wise, it may not measure up to other dedicated astro-cameras. But the 5D should serve you well at least your first year or two in astro-imaging. As you accumulate more knowledge and experience, you can re-evaluate things camera-wise.
As to telescope and mount when it comes to astrophotography, if you have a really tight budget, yobbo is right. I've also been able to find some nice used apochromatic refractors from reputable astro-dealers in the 75mm to 100mm range for around $400 to $500, but you have to be patient. Make sure you have an understanding with the dealer that if there is a seriously flaw with the telescope, you can return it or exchange it. For astrophotography you're going to have to commit to a three element (air-spaced) apochromatic front objective lens so you won't have to deal with chromatic aberration (CA ) which can be very distracting in astrophotos imo. With refractors you don't have to regularly adjust the optics (collimate) like you do with fast Newtonians that have two mirrors in them. And SCT telescopes (Schmidt Cassegrain) are more compact and fairly robust but your exposure times are going to be very long.
I'm afraid if you desire to do deep-sky photography you're going to need an accurate tracking telescope mount which may prove to be more expensive than your telescope. However, I've heard there are some olderGoTo tracking mounts known as Meade LXD75 with controller that can be had for $300 or less. I hear there's one fellow who rebuilds these and is selling them for under $200 but I don't know his name. Maybe someone else here knows who he is. But for lunar and planetary photography you just need a mount that can somewhat accurately and smoothly track for about 5 seconds. DSO astrophotography really requires about 1 to 2 minutes of fairly accurate tracking (if you're properly aligned with the North Celestial Pole using the built-in polar alignment scope) for images that you will be happy with starting out.
As to telescope and mount when it comes to astrophotography, if you have a really tight budget, yobbo is right. I've also been able to find some nice used apochromatic refractors from reputable astro-dealers in the 75mm to 100mm range for around $400 to $500, but you have to be patient. Make sure you have an understanding with the dealer that if there is a seriously flaw with the telescope, you can return it or exchange it. For astrophotography you're going to have to commit to a three element (air-spaced) apochromatic front objective lens so you won't have to deal with chromatic aberration (
I'm afraid if you desire to do deep-sky photography you're going to need an accurate tracking telescope mount which may prove to be more expensive than your telescope. However, I've heard there are some older
Telescopes: Meade LX90 10-inch f/10 UHC Coma-free SCT; Explore Scientific 127mm f/7.5 APO ED triplet refractor; Explore Scientific 102mm f/7 APO ED triplet refractor; Explore Scientific 80mm f/6 APO ED triplet refractor; Skywatcher 72mm f/6 ED Schott doublet refractor; Meade 70mm f/5 APO quadruplet astrograph refractor; Skywatcher Quattro 8-inch f/4 Newtonian astrograph; Orion 6-inch f/4 Newtonian astrograph; Skywatcher SkyMax 180mm f/15 Maksutov; iOptron 150mm f/12 Maksutov; Orion f/9 Ritchey-Chretien RC astrograph
Eyepieces: Set of 7 Baader Hyperion eyepieces, 3 Meade 5000 glass handgrenades; 1970s era Japanese manufactured Meade 12.5mm Orthoscopic, and too many other eclectic eyepieces to list
Mounts: Skywatcher EQ6-R Pro mount; Orion Atlas EQ-G mount
Post-production Software: Not good enough … oh, okay ... Canon's proprietary CanoScan ArcSoft 9000F photoshop suite
Eyepieces: Set of 7 Baader Hyperion eyepieces, 3 Meade 5000 glass handgrenades; 1970s era Japanese manufactured Meade 12.5mm Orthoscopic, and too many other eclectic eyepieces to list
Mounts: Skywatcher EQ6-R Pro mount; Orion Atlas EQ-G mount
Post-production Software: Not good enough … oh, okay ... Canon's proprietary CanoScan ArcSoft 9000F photoshop suite
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