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I actually saw it!!! Naked eye!
faintly in averted vision! It was ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY THERE! Right next to another star very close to it
near the 3rd star from mirach
Almost lost track of where things were because so many stars were visible. and getting brighter. it was ABSOLUTELY JAWDROPPING
Orion nebula was almost but not quite visible in averted vision

I also saw double cluster averted vision naked eye very faintly

And pleiades had at LEAST 8 maybe 9 stars distinctly visible in it!
I'm so stoked!!
What bortle level would I be in if I can see these objects?

Faintest star visible may of been very close to magnitude 5

I also took a mere TEN FRAMES of orion nebula/belt at 50mm F1.8 iso 1600. 4 second exposures
and got THIS RESULT! absolutely amazing! Normally it takes upwards of 100 photos minimum to see a vague indication of flame nebula!

Also in my telescope orion nebula looked amazing. in my small 70mm refractor scope. at about 30-40x magnification The UHC filter I have actually made a difference this time! orion nebula looked significantly brighter averted-vision very incredible!
i could see the wings of orion too with averted vision. and it looked really good. still no fine details but better than ever

Ive never been able to see andromeda before.
Any idea why the sky would suddenly be insanely clear? there doesnt seem to be any power outages in the area.
And the moon is even up in a thin crescent phase right now too.
Ive never seen the night sky so clear before. even with the clouds
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Sounds like the crappie weather finally broke in your location.
Temps on the East Coast are down 20º compared to earlier this week. Air is much drier. I don't think the jet stream dips as far south as your location very often either.

The other factor is you. Sounds like you are gaining experience and advancing your skills. So give yourself a little credit and enjoy the moment.

Well done!
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Congrats on your success. As Gary said, don't forget to pat yourself on the back, because your skills are improving. Of course the clearing out of the sky as Ida passed through also helped, improving your transparency. As to the Bortle level, I would say perhaps somewhere in the 5 to 6 range based on the data you provided. Since you didn't describe how the Milky Way appeared to your, that is just a quick guess. But your improving detection skills also factor in for you, so well done. Nothing beats time under the night sky to improve your abilities.

In terms of the Pleiades (M45), here is an image, courtesy of John Lanoue, that will help you understand what you saw (though not the reflection nebulae). The brightest members are shown with magnitudes and hopefully you can get a sense of which ones you saw. A good thing to do is make a rough sketch of the stars you see. Good luck and hopefully going into fall and winter, you will get much more time to work on your improving skills.
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Your enthusiasm really shows through and congrats on getting a naked-eye view of M31. Also, you get the TSS Visual Report of the Day award for today...
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i am very glad for you , nice orion shot also , thx .
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Nice Quick Pic!! Don't be too modest, you captured the Flame and a tiny hint of the Horsehead too...
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realflow100 wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:17 am I actually saw it!!! Naked eye!
faintly in averted vision! It was ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY THERE! Right next to another star very close to it
near the 3rd star from mirach
Almost lost track of where things were because so many stars were visible. and getting brighter. it was ABSOLUTELY JAWDROPPING
Orion nebula was almost but not quite visible in averted vision

I also saw double cluster averted vision naked eye very faintly

And pleiades had at LEAST 8 maybe 9 stars distinctly visible in it!
I'm so stoked!!
What bortle level would I be in if I can see these objects?

Faintest star visible may of been very close to magnitude 5

I also took a mere TEN FRAMES of orion nebula/belt at 50mm F1.8 iso 1600. 4 second exposures
and got THIS RESULT! absolutely amazing! Normally it takes upwards of 100 photos minimum to see a vague indication of flame nebula!

Also in my telescope orion nebula looked amazing. in my small 70mm refractor scope. at about 30-40x magnification The UHC filter I have actually made a difference this time! orion nebula looked significantly brighter averted-vision very incredible!
i could see the wings of orion too with averted vision. and it looked really good. still no fine details but better than ever

Ive never been able to see andromeda before.
Any idea why the sky would suddenly be insanely clear? there doesnt seem to be any power outages in the area.
And the moon is even up in a thin crescent phase right now too.
Ive never seen the night sky so clear before. even with the clouds
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helicon wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:02 pm Your enthusiasm really shows through and congrats on getting a naked-eye view of M31. Also, you get the TSS Visual Report of the Day award for today...
VROD well deserved!
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I'm stoked just reading your report! :)
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Congratulations on the observation, and on the VROD for your enthusiastic report!

To see M31, you need two things: relatively low light pollution, and excellent transparency. Transparency is basically a lack of haze in the atmosphere. Haze results from plant respiration, pollution from combustion, and such things, and it varies with the weather. So, chances are that your weather conditions cleared out the haze that is normally there.

In a clear night, in a Bortle 2 area, with exceptionally good transparency, I have had a non-astronomer ask me what "that bright fuzzy patch" was. It was M31, so clear that someone not even looking for it could see it easily.

Next challenge: M33. I have heard it can be done, though I haven't convincingly seen it myself yet. M13 is also visible under good conditions.
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Hi Realflow. Well, it looks like you really enjoyed yourself with finally getting a nice dark sky and seeing the Andromeda Galaxy. And, you seem to be getting really adjusted to orienting yourself with the locations of celestial targets. Thanks for your excellent report as well as the nice Orion Nebula image Realflow, and congratulations on receiving the TSS VROD Award today.
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KathyNS wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:41 pm Congratulations on the observation, and on the VROD for your enthusiastic report!

To see M31, you need two things: relatively low light pollution, and excellent transparency. Transparency is basically a lack of haze in the atmosphere. Haze results from plant respiration, pollution from combustion, and such things, and it varies with the weather. So, chances are that your weather conditions cleared out the haze that is normally there.

In a clear night, in a Bortle 2 area, with exceptionally good transparency, I have had a non-astronomer ask me what "that bright fuzzy patch" was. It was M31, so clear that someone not even looking for it could see it easily.

Next challenge: M33. I have heard it can be done, though I haven't convincingly seen it myself yet. M13 is also visible under good conditions.
You are correct Kathy, M33 is indeed visible naked eye. For many it takes averted vision, which is how I've seen it. Several Messier objects are visible with the naked eye under the right conditions.
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Congratulations on the VROD!

It's certainly very cool and fun to locate stuff naked eye 👀
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That sort of enthusiasm is contagious. I was almost going out with the telescope, even if it wasn't dark yet, and it rained. :lol:
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Well done! It is quite amazing that we can see another galaxy naked eye.

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I'm not sure what stars exactly i saw in pleiades but I could see at least for sure 8 stars and maybe even 9 stars. I knew where to look for them too so that could of helped. also use of averted vision.
Andromeda is just the vaguest faintest averted vision dot it could possibly be. but I saw it for sure!
I tried looking for triangulum also but there was no trace of it at all. just too faint. its significantly fainter than andromeda.
Also the milkyway is just vaguely visible at the zenith as an averted-vision-only faint cloud-like band. but no details. very hard to see. easy to miss.

Also when it was getting lighter outside in the morning the sky looked really choppy. where there wasn't clouds there was extra dark blue areas. and the rest looked hazy or smoggy or something. big stripes and dips and weird patches all around.

Andromeda wasn't quite in the clearest parts. so it could of been even better if andromeda was in the clearest parts of the sky! orions belt and pleiades must of been in the clearest part because it looked extra good

Heres an older pic I took of orions belt. with a crop on flame and horsehead. horsehead is just barely visible as the faintest darker spot in the noise. Theres less star color from the higher light pollution here
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OMG i'm absolutely SHOCKED I saw andromeda galaxy again naked eye! but this time it was even harder to see. I had to look half way between andromeda and the alpheratz star in order to see it in averted vision!
also seen double cluster and a few star patches in the plane of the milkyway in averted vision.
I'm even more shocked I think i saw both m32 and m110 in my telescope at 20x! they were very hard to spot.
I had use quite far averted vision to detect m32 and I think I only saw a brief split-second glance of m110 somewhat above the core of andromeda. slightly to the left (mirror flipped left-right from refractor 90 degree star diagonal)
m32 was with a couple other stars.
im surprised i was able to see those at all in my bortle level and small 70mm scope!

I also spotted m13 in binoculars and my telescope and it looked best at a decent magnification. i think around 93x it looked the largest. but it was still just a faint fuzzy blob with no discernable stars in it. just a couple stars nearby indicating where it is.
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Re: OMG OMG!! I saw andromeda galaxy for the first time naked eye!

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realflow100 wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 4:53 am OMG i'm absolutely SHOCKED I saw andromeda galaxy again naked eye! but this time it was even harder to see. I had to look half way between andromeda and the alpheratz star in order to see it in averted vision!
also seen double cluster and a few star patches in the plane of the milkyway in averted vision.
I'm even more shocked I think i saw both m32 and m110 in my telescope at 20x! they were very hard to spot.
I had use quite far averted vision to detect m32 and I think I only saw a brief split-second glance of m110 somewhat above the core of andromeda. slightly to the left (mirror flipped left-right from refractor 90 degree star diagonal)
m32 was with a couple other stars.
im surprised i was able to see those at all in my bortle level and small 70mm scope!

I also spotted m13 in binoculars and my telescope and it looked best at a decent magnification. i think around 93x it looked the largest. but it was still just a faint fuzzy blob with no discernable stars in it. just a couple stars nearby indicating where it is.
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