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Ok people, I want to try my hand at some Planetary imaging. I believe I have everything I need except for maybe filters. I plan on using my EdgeHD 11", I have a Tele Vue 2x Powermate, ASI 462MC camera and Firecap software. I think they only thing left are what filters do I need to use with this? I want to try for Jupiter and Saturn to start with.

I am looking for some solid advice please since I have never done planetary imaging, Only DSO & Terrestrial. Info on filters, slewing rate, you know all the good stuff to get me going. Youtube is driving me nuts with all kinds of info but nothing definitive that I can disseminate.

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I just looked at the published response curve, and it seems that a good IR cut filter is needed for true colors. Otherwise, I suspect, that the planet colors will be rather muddy.
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Some people like to image in the IR and that is just fine, but what color is an invisible light?? BW seems fine to me. So maybe an IR pass, visible cut filter would be a second choice.

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I did some work last year on the targets using my SE6 SCT. I used sidereal tracking it gave me around 3 minutes before the planet went to the limit of the FOV. That is plenty of frames (depending upon the FPS achieved) then reset the view and go again. You may want to consider adding an ADC to your setup (depending how low the targets are in you location). Ideally need to be above say 30 declination to get good images
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If you already have the UV / IR cut filter then that's all you need. I do not use any filters when I do planetary imaging. Your camera is sensitive enough, and your pixels are small enough, and your telescope is big enough that the images you can obtain will be very impressive.
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I agree with Jay Tee. But, the most important thing you need is a steady atmosphere. Go for it.
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sdbodin wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 5:15 am I just looked at the published response curve, and it seems that a good IR cut filter is needed for true colors. Otherwise, I suspect, that the planet colors will be rather muddy.

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Some people like to image in the IR and that is just fine, but what color is an invisible light?? BW seems fine to me. So maybe an IR pass, visible cut filter would be a second choice.

Just thoughts,
Steve
Thanks, I have an IDAS LPS-D3 that may work, I'll give it a try especially since the moon will be so bright.

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Scope: Explorer Scientific 127CF, Askar FR600, Planewave CDK 14""
Guide Scope & Camera: ASI 174, ZWO OAG-L
Camera: QHY 268 Mono, QHY 600 Mono
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Greenman wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 8:09 am I did some work last year on the targets using my SE6 SCT. I used sidereal tracking it gave me around 3 minutes before the planet went to the limit of the FOV. That is plenty of frames (depending upon the FPS achieved) then reset the view and go again. You may want to consider adding an ADC to your setup (depending how low the targets are in you location). Ideally need to be above say 30 declination to get good images
Thanks, I'll try sidereal first, if that's too fast or slow I'll try lunar and solar. the 30 degree isn't a problem, Items are normaly 30+ before they clear the neighbors roof and my front trees LOL. Makes for shorter imaging time facing south. btw, I do have an ADC, forgot to mention it. Bought it before all my failed attemps at mars this past year


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Scope: Explorer Scientific 127CF, Askar FR600, Planewave CDK 14""
Guide Scope & Camera: ASI 174, ZWO OAG-L
Camera: QHY 268 Mono, QHY 600 Mono
Mount: Planewave L-350, Skywatcher EQ8-Rh Pro, Losmandy G11
Accessories: Moonlite Nitecrawler WR30, WR35, Eagle 3&4 Pro, QHY CFW3/7 Filterwheel, QHY Polemaster,
Software: N.I.N.A., CdC, Planewave 3, Pixinsight
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