Come join the friendliest, most engaging and inclusive astronomy forum geared for beginners and advanced telescope users, astrophotography devotees, plus check out our "Astro" goods vendors.
Come join the friendliest, most engaging and inclusive astronomy forum geared for beginners and advanced telescope users, astrophotography devotees, plus check out our "Astro" goods vendors.
I've been looking into buying a full-aperture solar filter for a C11.
From what I've read, the glass filters are not the best option.
Which filters do you prefer? I've heard the Baader film is good. Thousand Oaks has another. The film-filters are, according to some, optically superior to non-optical grade glass filters.
Baader presents a white image; TO is orange. Also, the TO is not susceptible to scratches, since the filtration is throughout the volume of the filter, not just on the surface.
They are all about the same price: $150 or so for 11" aperture.
I have a Thousand Oaks glass filter for my little C-90. I have been very happy with it. I believe that their filters are optical grade glass.
I would be surprised if the filtration was in the body of the glass. That's the first time I have heard that. Most of the filtration is in the reflective coating, which would be susceptible to scratches. I always carefully wrap mine in bubble wrap before I store it.
DSO AP:Orion 200mm f/4 Newtonian Astrograph; ATIK 383L+; EFW2 filter wheel; Astrodon Ha,Oiii,LRGB filters; KWIQ/QHY5 guide scope; Planetary AP:Celestron C-11; ZWO ASI120MC; Portable: Celestron C-8 on HEQ5 pro; C-90 on wedge; 20x80 binos; Etc: Canon 350D; Various EPs, etc. Obs: 8' Exploradome; iOptron CEM60 (pier); Helena Observatory (H2O)Astrobin
The glass filters use a reflective coating; some of the film-style filters are dark plastic. if you scratch them, they don't let sunlight through at full intensity.
I was originally planning on a glass filter, but I've heard that optically polished plane parallel glass for a full aperture filter is prohibitively expensive. But if you say they are good, I'll believe you.
I had a SolarSkreen from Tuthill back in the 70's; it was good in my opinion. The sun was transmitted as a light blue color - very pleasing.
I'm really just surveying the options in preparation for the Mercury transit on 11/11/19.
Do you even want a full-aperture filter? A C-11 is a big scope, that lets in a lot of photons, especially from the Sun. I would consider a reduced-aperture filter.
DSO AP:Orion 200mm f/4 Newtonian Astrograph; ATIK 383L+; EFW2 filter wheel; Astrodon Ha,Oiii,LRGB filters; KWIQ/QHY5 guide scope; Planetary AP:Celestron C-11; ZWO ASI120MC; Portable: Celestron C-8 on HEQ5 pro; C-90 on wedge; 20x80 binos; Etc: Canon 350D; Various EPs, etc. Obs: 8' Exploradome; iOptron CEM60 (pier); Helena Observatory (H2O)Astrobin
I have both glass filters and film filters (a Thousand Oaks and a Baader). The filter I use the most are the glass filters, and that mostly on the 25x100s. When I use a larger scope (specifically the 8" LX200ACF) I use the smaller Thousand Oaks filter because it fits the off axis mask I have for the larger SCT. I would not want a full aperture filter for the SCT, although if the larger glass filters I have would fit snugly on my mask I would probably use one of them instead of the film filter.
The Baader film has the best resolution for white light solar viewing and yes you can scratch a glass filter.
You can do a search online for the resolution/ filtering specifications for these.
This is one of the reasons why you need to visually inspect them before use. I normally use a Herschel wedge now but still have a couple of Baader film filters.
After comparing it to a Thousand Oaks glass filter, as I said to Bryan (Bladekeeper) a short while ago, the TO is a 85€ table coaster.
As the others have stated already, I would not use a full size filter on a 11" SCT either, a off axis filter would still give you a lot of brightness and resolution.
Gabrielle See Far Sticks: Elita 103/1575, AOM FLT 105/1000, Bresser 127/1200 BV, Nočný stopár 152/1200, Vyrobené doma 70/700, Stellarvue NHNG DX 80/552, TAL RS 100/1000, Vixen SD115s/885 EQ: TAL MT-1, Vixen SXP, SXP2, AXJ, AXD Az/Alt: AYO Digi II, Stellarvue M2C, Argo Navis encoders on both Tripods: Berlebach Planet (2), Uni 28 Astro, Report 372, TAL factory maple, Vixen ASG-CB90, Vixen AXD-TR102 Diagonals: Astro-Physics, Baader Amici, Baader Herschel, iStar Blue, Stellarvue DX, Tak prism, TAL, Vixen Eyepieces: Antares to Zeiss (1011110) The only culture I have is from yogurt
KathyNS wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:53 pm
Do you even want a full-aperture filter? A C-11 is a big scope, that lets in a lot of photons, especially from the Sun. I would consider a reduced-aperture filter.
I agree... 100%
John (Urban Astronomer) Apertura AD10 Dob; XLT 150 Dob; XLT 120EQ; Lunt Solar 60 PT/B1200; ES AR102; SW Pro 100ED; 2 SW Pro 80ED's; 90mm Eq; WO Z-61; SW 90mm Virtuso Mak; 2 Orion ST-80's; Quark-C; Cams: Polemaster, ASI120MM-S, ASI174MM & ASI174MM-C