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I was wondering if it's worth it to have pads.
my mount is on cement.
for a cg-4 mount.
thoughts?
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I am not sure if they would help much on cement, they might.

However, cement and pavement can wear down those little rubber feet on your mount.
So that is something to consider.
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Ylem wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:18 am I am not sure if they would help much on cement, they might.

However, cement and pavement can wear down those little rubber feet on your mount.
So that is something to consider.
I agree that on a paved surface they might not help much except to reduce wear and tear on the tripod feet. If there is some machinery that shares the cement footing (like and air conditioning unit?) then they might help.
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I tried these pads, but they did not seem to make a difference. The extension tube I added to the mount made a very big difference. It allowed me to shorten the tripod legs.



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Refractordude wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:24 am I tried these pads, but they did not seem to make a difference. The extension tube I added to the mount made a very big difference. It allowed me to shorten the tripod legs.



https://www.telescope.com/Orion-SkyView ... p/7393.uts
someone here has discussed this before and he was saying the same thing as you.
I will think about that.
ps do you have a photo of your extension by chance?
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I used the Celestron vibration pads when I started imaging. My experience is that I am better off without them for two reasons. 1) they didn't provide any dampening effect on my deck and 2) they made it very difficult to set the tripod up in exactly the same orientation every time making repeatable polar alignment more challenging than it is without the pads.

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messier 111 wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:27 am
Refractordude wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:24 am I tried these pads, but they did not seem to make a difference. The extension tube I added to the mount made a very big difference. It allowed me to shorten the tripod legs.



https://www.telescope.com/Orion-SkyView ... p/7393.uts
someone here has discussed this before and he was saying the same thing as you.
I will think about that.
ps do you have a photo of your extension by chance?
Here is a photo. I think this Orion extension tube will work with your mount, but I could be wrong. Someone at the forum will know for sure. Left click the image.
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Refractordude wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:38 am
messier 111 wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:27 am
Refractordude wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:24 am I tried these pads, but they did not seem to make a difference. The extension tube I added to the mount made a very big difference. It allowed me to shorten the tripod legs.



https://www.telescope.com/Orion-SkyView ... p/7393.uts
someone here has discussed this before and he was saying the same thing as you.
I will think about that.
ps do you have a photo of your extension by chance?
Here is a photo. I think this Orion extension tube will work with your mount, but I could be wrong. Someone at the forum will know for sure. Left click the image.
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yes I remember now, I saw your photo in one of my threads here.
show us your setup.
many thanks.
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Not sure why you are seeing so little enthusiasm, here. I often use the Celestron (circular sorbethane containing) disks under the feet of my Twilight 1 mount with Celestron 6" SCT. They generally make a big difference, reducing damping time by a factor of 2-3x. I can see the effect easily in the eyepiece by comparing what happens with vs. without the pads, when I bump the scope (or simply adjust the focus). It may be if you have too much weight on them, that they don't work as well. My setup is relatively light.
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I have used the Celestron dampers under my HEQ6 on pavement for solar imaging . In this situation the issue is that the pavement is rigid and this mount is not "hyper tuned" so any internal mount vibration will not be dampened out at the feet , instead it is bounced back into the mount head . My live view is steadier and frame captures are better when I use the dampers with this mount .
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Vibration pads really only work for lighter weight setups, usually below 9kg- 11 kgs.
Once you start putting to much weight on the shock absorbing material gets squished to thin to be of any benefit.

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I noticed that the question of weight comes up often.
I want to put this with a cg-4 and a sw 120 ed,
the ed weighs about 11 pounds and the cg-4, 35 pounds.
maybe it's already too heavy for the pads.
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I all depends on the mount. When I first got my used C8, it was on a EQ fork mount. Everytime I touched the focuser it would take 5-7 seconds for the vibration to stop. With anti vibration pads it took less than 2.

On the new EXOS-2 mount, it's so rock solid I don't need them.
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They are cheap enough, worth a try I guess.
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messier 111 wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:12 pm I noticed that the question of weight comes up often.
I want to put this with a cg-4 and a sw 120 ed,
the ed weighs about 11 pounds and the cg-4, 35 pounds.
maybe it's already too heavy for the pads.
If you do get them, let us know how they work out :)
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Ylem wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:32 pm
messier 111 wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:12 pm I noticed that the question of weight comes up often.
I want to put this with a cg-4 and a sw 120 ed,
the ed weighs about 11 pounds and the cg-4, 35 pounds.
maybe it's already too heavy for the pads.
If you do get them, let us know how they work out :)
i will jeff .
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I have a set of round pads like these. I see stabilizing effect on a wooden deck but not on concrete .

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Bigzmey wrote: Sun Dec 13, 2020 2:10 am I have a set of round pads like these. I see stabilizing effect on a wooden deck but not on concrete .

I have the same item under Celestron branding. I used them more from a wooden deck where I found them indispensable. I would also use them as a mud guard for tripod feet when observing from soft ground after spring snow melts.
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i don't think pads will make a difference for the general setup unless really needed , i think it really depends on the surface you are using them on and the scope/mount, for example when imaging at high magnifications on planets, if i even tip toe around on the concrete it causes the image to vibrate !.

my main imaging scope at 1200mm fl has recently developed unbalanced fans that vibrate, i don't use them when imaging now as it oscilates the tracking and phd will try and chase this vibration thus in resulting in poor guiding ..
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When I'm on cement/concrete I always use these furniture rubber feet. They are very inexpensive and they work reasonably well.
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